marami na tayong panglaban sa neps...

155 police officers get it into elite antiterrorist force after commando training

By Anthony Vargas, Reporter

ABOUT 155 police officers including 62 women were integrated on Wednesday into the Philippine National Police-Special Action Force (PNP-SAF) after completing months of commando training.

The PNP chief, Director General Hermogenes Ebdane Jr., a former commander of the PNP-SAF, urged the new graduates at a ceremony on the Camp Crame parade grounds to harness their newly acquired knowledge and skills to neutralize threats to public safety and security.

“Our government cannot concentrate on the task of economic development and political stability without peace and order. Use your skills in fighting those threats,” Ebdane said.

Ebdane said the SAF, which uses the Star Wars motto of “May the force be with you,” represents the cutting edge in the PNP’s campaign against terrorism, insurgency and organized criminal syndicates.

The PNP-SAF is the elite mobile strike unit of the National Police that specializes in urban and jungle warfare. It is also highly trained for counterinsurgency and counterter-rorism missions.

The 155 men and women who graduated Wednesday belong to the SAF Commando Course Classes 25-2003 and 29-2004. The 62 policewomen belong to Commando Class of 25, who finished their course in 11 months of intense and grueling training.

Commando-29 class completed its course after accomplishing its test mission in Zambales last month, where it encountered a large group of communist rebels.

Chief Supt. Silverio Alarcio, SAF commander, said the Commando-29 class killed three communist rebels and captured four others during the encounter, which was its baptism of fire.

Under SAF tradition, a trainee must accomplish a test mission before being called a Special Action Force graduate. The test mission calls for an encounter with enemies of the state.


:snipemo: tara bakbakan na

just like the SRs?

And are they armed with lightsabers too?

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i hope they don't turn into well trained private militias, bankrobbers, kidnappers and murderers for hire.. hehehehe :bounce:

SR, SAF, SF, LRC, SWAG - naku ang dami na nga

epiktib ba?

SAF were trained by israelis. the israelis came back again as recently as 2001, who knows is they ever left. SAF are given some of the best equipment, they are the ones who are armed with FAMAS on a large scale (one of the pros of being a civilian force). if u guys have seen their uniforms on the recent class that graduated, they mustve changed uniforms again. one of the things SAF does is go on raids with army or marines in areas where there is a clear rebel threat, since the military has no arresting powers, the SAF have to be the ones that show warrants, actually arrest someone, and read them their rights. the SAF as well as the Regional Mobile Groups, are relegated to these tasks in the provinces with alot of "affected" areas.

the SAF should be disbanded, this unit is a redundancy to the function exercised by many AFP units, the budget and equipment for SAF should be given to PNP SWAT for anti-crime operations. If these SAF guys are equipped with FAMAS rifles then give the guns to the SWAT and other anti-crime operatives.

I still have to see a PNP-SAF operator armed with the FAMAS, this unit though uses quite a variety of assault rifles and SMGs.

The FERFRANS SOAR will be their primary assault weapon. Im in agreement with Boombanger here, the PNPSAF commando wannabes should be disbanded, they are just a waste of money. Turnover their weapons to the SRs or the SWAT.

Blame the constitution and the PNP law, it says that counter insurgency falls into the bedrolls of the PNP. SAF and the RMG is the manifestation of that law. They are effective and have served their purpose, but the duplication may seem inherent alright. But who are we including our friends in uniform in the PNP and AFP to question the ultimate wisdom of our political masters. :bow:

What are the recent accomplishments of the SAF? I think none spectacular.
Last time I heard of them was a fracas in Basilan where a group of SAF guys terrorized the civilians in a public market.


Look at these corny cops

News about SAf accomplishment:


Zambales Local News
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Zamba townsfolk accuse cops of HR abuses in encounter
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Manila Times
July 10, 2004; Saturday

Iba, Zambales – Residents of a village in the northernmost town of this province said unidentified members of the Philippine National Police (PNP) Special Action Forces (SAF) based in Camp Malimanga in Candelaria town violated human rights in an encounter with the communist rebels on June 20.

But a member of the elite police unit, who participated in the June 20 encounter, denied that SAF committed such abuses and lamented that the police are always accused of human rights violations in legitimate encounters with the rebels.

The policeman said SAF was positive that those captured and killed in that operation were members of the New People’s Army (NPA) and that a policeman also died in the encounter.

But the alleged human rights victims and officials of Brgy. Lucapon South in Sta. Cruz, Zambales, executed sworn statements accusing the elite SAF unit of committing human rights violations that resulted in the death of a 21-year old resident and the continuing detention of two others.

The complainants, who asked the Sangguniang Panlalawigan to investigate the incident along with the Commission on Human Rights (CHR) denied that the alleged victims of human rights abuses were not NPA rebels and were simple residents of Sitio Mapalad in Brgy. Lucapon South.

http://www.vgovlacbain.com/modules.php?op=...article&sid=127

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i also want the SAF disbanded and the COIN not returned to PNP, they bungled it before

Always blame the Military, when the rebels commit atrocities, I don't hear anyone complaining.

To be exact Mr. Guest, the military is not being blamed in this thread, its the PNP or the SAF specifically. ;)

first of all SAF is for PNP not AFP. so there is no redundancy.. AFP units are not created for internal defense. its primary function is to defend the country from external aggression. before COIN was under the PNP but now.. the AFP is the one waging the fight against the LCM :asniper: :crawling: :sniper: ..

which is still a redundancy...

theyve done it before and failed miserably :rifle:

one of their job is to secure the vicinity of foreign embassies in metro manila, other vital installations, provide training for police personnel.. and to secure the VIPs..
and we cannot allocate any special unit of the AFP to do this job.. coz they're on the front line fighting the LCM and separatist groups..
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bodyguards lang pala ang mga to eh di gawin na lang silang regular SWAT

bakit kaya ang US may HRU kahit may SWAT sila?
SWAT are confined in an area while SAF are national in scope

you may have noticed that the SAF is regularly used as an anti-coup force. Remember before when most AFp units would act "neutral" during coups. Hindi mhanap at kung ano-anung alibi o palusot. The SAF is insulated from the fraternities in the AFP that is what makes them useful during coups.

...and a coup spearhead also. :thumb:

during the EDSA dos coup de etat of GMA. Anti-Erap PNP generals immediately secured Camp Crame to neytralize a bttalion of SAF inside.

When Panfilo Lacson went to Crame to mobilize the SAF he was shocked to find the barrel of assault rifles pointed at him.

-from my friends in the PNP hierarchy.

Its not good to disband the SAF, most of the members of SAf are better educated than the Army, hence they commit less atrocities against the civilians because of their higher educational level.

are you joking? :wow:

tingnan mo nga dyan ang mga opisyal, pmayer at west pointer at ndc pa sobra na nga ang edukasyon eh sila pa ang mga loko :grrr: naku SAF Fan gumising ka nga !

That makes SAF men as hardworking, dilligent, non political, untainted, patriotic and highly effective men?

Sorry my friend, the only difference SAF has on AFP men is that SAF have larger doses of criminal law procedures than any other fighting unit (except the PNP core).

SAF technically according to our law is suppose to read the miranda rights of their pursued targets before they can strike. So SAF "technically" should be shot first before they can engage else they violate police procedures.

Given the context, of their engagements, this practice of "law enforcement" goes down the drain once the neps are engaged and they are righfully so as it does not apply. Thus, your advantage over the AFP men is severely negated if not totally marginalized. That makes SAF and AFP in equal footing, would'nt you say?

Besides, most people I know who have higher education become business men and stockbrokers. Thus if you had higher education but you can not fight life outisde, join SAF, losers welcomed!

By saying that statement, it's a disservice to the fine men and women of SAF. They will not let their legacy be disrespected by a statement like yours.

Sorry pare, that's my piece.

watch mo ba balita ngaun umaga??

dalawang PNP SAF inspectors nagwala sa isang KTV dahil pinapabayad eh di gustong magbayad - mga tenyente sila kung sa military eh sigurado mga PNPA grads o degree holders - in short -EDUCATED - eh bat mga abusado pa rin?


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Maybe the government should hire political and moral ideologues like what Marcos did with Nilo Tayag. Nilo Tayag was allowed to conduct teach-ins on the Filipino Ideology in military camps. Problem is the military guys awareness on ethics and ideology grew to an extent that they plotted to overthrow Marcos himself who the ideological inclined military officers felt were part of the corrupt system.

ha ha ha ha nag backfire ang strategy ni Apo Makoy :armyLol:

even after the coups the YOU propagandists on radio were still mouthing the Filipino Ideology of the APO Marcos. Cory missed her chance to mold the AFP. Anyway, remember the issue when she was caught wearing the jewelry of Imelda Marcos and the overpriced |Malacanang executive building. Her hesitancy tro fire police generals involved in drug traficking which led to the protest resignation of then Capt. Reynaldo Jaylo? Lahat iyan tinatalakay sa mga radio programs supporting the RAM-YOU.

educated nga e lasenggero naman at tsaka pulis di tsapa lang ang pambayad pede na


:rifle:

Basta ako, idol ko ugali ng Philippine Marines. Pinakadisiplinado sa sensibilities ng mga sibilyan. indi- nang-aarbor! hindi- nang-sasalvage o summary execution ng nahuhuling NPA! dinadaan sa batas! Sila rin ang nagligtas sa atin mula kay Joseph Estrada!

kaya pala marami pa rin sila...darn!

akala ko ba.. THE FEW, THE PROUD.. THE MARINES.. :rifle:

Ermmm...were they the ones who forced Erap out of the Palace? :rifle:

Sila po ang may pinakamalaking military component that was suppose to attack MALACANANG. iyong iba sawsaw lang when they got the news that the US state department is willing to recognize the legitimacy of GMA. How do I know? Kasama ako sa ibang grupo involved in it.

Iyong IBA saling-pusa!

saan ka ba naman nakakita na napakamadaling kinilala ng Estados Unidos ang ligitimacy ni GMA. Dahil December 2000 pa po scheduled bitbitin si Erap palabas through a people power suppoted by some powerful elements in the AFP. Matagal na siyang gustong itapon ng USA.

Kaya kayong wannabe plotters remember walang OK ng CIA palpak ang "exercise" niyo.

:wow: :wow: :wow:

Ganun!

Malas ang nag-Oakwood - siguradong walang CIA blessing yun... :armytwisted:

BUT I WAS QUITE EXCITED THIS TIME UPON BEING INFORMED THAT I WOULD SPEAK BEFORE YOU TODAY BECAUSE AS I SAID I NEVER WANT TO GIVE UP A CHANCE TO ACKNOWLEDGE ALWAYS THE HEROES OF EDSA. I THANK YOU AND I THANK ALL OF YOU GENTLEMEN FOR HAVING BEEN THERE. I THANK ONCE AGAIN GENERAL REYES AND THE ENTIRE CHAIN OF COMMAND, AND I THANK GENERAL ESPINOSA FOR BEING AMONG THE PRIME MOVERS OF EDSA 2, WHICH AGAIN BROUGHT THE PHILIPPINES BEFORE THE APPRECIATIVE EYES OF THE WHOLE WORLD.

-GMA acknowledging the special role of the Philippine Marine Corps in saving the Philippines from Erap.

http://www.opnet.ops.gov.ph/speech-2001feb08.htm


ang bilis ko magpakita ng ebidensiya ano. Siyempre pamilyar ako sa mga nangyari na hindi alam ng media.

ganun ba bok, pro pede ka naman siguro maglagay ng handle para me ID reference ami re your posts, di naman siguro mabulgar ang deep cover identity mo... :thumb: