Title: Philippine Army Shermans
Description: What happened to them?
MSantor - September 13, 2005 05:53 PM (GMT)
What happened to the Philippine Army's Shermans? I know some were with PEFTOK (Philippine Expeditionary Force to Korea) during the Korean War, but what happened to those tanks? BTW, which tank units were not in the BCTs in Korea?
Did we modernize the Shermans to the point that the Israelis did before they were retired? I know some IDF "Ishermans" gave the Egyptians a nasty surprise during the Yom Kippur War- especially with their turrets upgraded to hold 90mm cannons.
GKB02 - September 14, 2005 12:47 AM (GMT)
one is at the relics point in Fort DPL in Baguio
City Hunter - September 14, 2005 01:43 AM (GMT)
I read on a PEFTOK site (cannot recall at this moment) that the tanks issued to Filipino troops who served there came from the Americans. No idea about the Garands used but a note from another source said that the Garand was put into production again to fill in the need for rifles for the forces who helped defend South Korea.
Those Shermans that we had were probably left overs of the Americans after the war. Same most likely with the other assets we had then. Sure wish we developed them then so we would not need source elsewhere the hardwares needed by our AFP and even the PNP.
Manokski - September 15, 2005 05:43 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (City Hunter @ Sep 14 2005, 09:43 AM) |
I read on a PEFTOK site (cannot recall at this moment) that the tanks issued to Filipino troops who served there came from the Americans. No idea about the Garands used but a note from another source said that the Garand was put into production again to fill in the need for rifles for the forces who helped defend South Korea.
Those Shermans that we had were probably left overs of the Americans after the war. Same most likely with the other assets we had then. Sure wish we developed them then so we would not need source elsewhere the hardwares needed by our AFP and even the PNP. |
A number of the PA Shermans were sold to Israel soon after Israel gained independence. In addition to Shermans, the PA also sold most of its half tracks as well.
saver111 - September 15, 2005 05:47 AM (GMT)
Maybe it's about time we buy now from them. :armywink:
Sentinel - September 16, 2005 08:06 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Manokski @ Sep 15 2005, 01:43 PM) |
| QUOTE (City Hunter @ Sep 14 2005, 09:43 AM) | I read on a PEFTOK site (cannot recall at this moment) that the tanks issued to Filipino troops who served there came from the Americans. No idea about the Garands used but a note from another source said that the Garand was put into production again to fill in the need for rifles for the forces who helped defend South Korea.
Those Shermans that we had were probably left overs of the Americans after the war. Same most likely with the other assets we had then. Sure wish we developed them then so we would not need source elsewhere the hardwares needed by our AFP and even the PNP. |
A number of the PA Shermans were sold to Israel soon after Israel gained independence. In addition to Shermans, the PA also sold most of its half tracks as well.
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WE sold Sherman Tanks to Israel? when was this? you said after Israel gained independence, which was in 1948 right? did it get there in time for the 1956(?) war or after? :patrioticpinoy:
MSantor - September 16, 2005 05:02 PM (GMT)
I'm sorry that was a mistake I meant to say a number of Shermans were sold to Israel, but not from us.
Don't know how the acronym PA got in there.
Still curious to know what happened to the last PA Shermans though.
datu - September 16, 2005 08:57 PM (GMT)
Israel received a large number of Shermans from different sources, the largest bulk was from France, but also from any nation willing to sell, so the Philippines couldve been a seller. Whats intersting about the Shermans was that how long these survived. From the 1948 war and into the 80s. A large number of their Shermans were the early model vesions with the low velocity 75mm guns, and they were brought to be used against Arab T-34s. When Arabs started getting T-54/55 tanks, the Shermans were upgraded with 105mm guns, new turret, reengined, new transmission, new suspension.
In the late 70s and in the 80s, Peru purchased a number of T-55 tanks, and Chile looking for a counter, turned to Israel and bought some of its Shermans as well as upgrading them with the 60mm "hyper velocity" gun. These Chilean Shermans served on until the late 90s when Chile bought surplus Dutch LeopardI and also buying a number of AMX-30 MBTs. On a side note, the Chileans got rid of their Shermans but installed the 60mm guns from the Shermans in their Pirana APCs.
jammerjamesky - September 24, 2005 02:27 AM (GMT)
After the World War II and korean war. In what year does the PA was starting using this sherman. And how many sherman's they were operating? or Do we really have a sherman tanks after the korean war? or the lone sherman relic was at Baguio City.
Lt.superman - January 29, 2006 07:58 AM (GMT)
well shermans are old tanks why do u want them back at active service? just a question hindi ako nageinsu :patrioticpinoy: :salute: lto
M16 - January 31, 2006 08:54 AM (GMT)
shermans WW2 pa yan old na yan :armysmile:
GKB02 - January 31, 2006 01:47 PM (GMT)
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| shermans WW2 pa yan old na yan |
lt.superman is that your twin brother???