Since the topic of PAF C130s has been coming up, a bit of history:

http://www.hueybravo.net/Airforcepage/c130.htm

with some info on individual aircraft histories for the plane spotters out there.

http://www.hueybravo.net/Airforcepage/c130photos.htm

If anyone sees any errors, corrections are appreciated.

My apologies in advance as the page has not been updated recently though the basic info remains unchanged - an indication of how underfunded the PAF is....

Source where some of these C-130's came from:

THE "NEW-OLD" B-MODELS
LOCKHEED C/N USAF S/N WHERE IS IT NOW?
3520 58-0725 Sold to the Philippine Air Force, 1995; retired 1997
3521 58-0726 Sold to the Colombian Air Force, 1992
3524 58-0729 Scrapped, 2000
3526 58-0731 Sold to the South African Air Force, Oct 1997
3528 58-0733 Sold to the Ecuadorian Air Force 1992, retired 1999
3530 58-0734 Sold to the South African Air Force, Jan 1998
3537 58-0740 Destroyed at Homestead AFB by Hurricane Andrew 6
3538 58-0741 Sold to the Argentinean Air Force ca 1992
3539 58-0742 Sold to Botswana, 1999
3545 58-0747 Sold to the Philippine Air Force Sep 1997
3551 58-0752 Sold to the Chilean Air force ca 1992
3559 58-0758 Sold to Bolivia 1994; crashed Chimorre, 14Jan2000

http://www.spectrumwd.com/c130/articles/wc130.htm

Some nice facts about the WC "Whiskey Charlie" versions of the C-130, from a Pinoy:

http://www.tabacofamily.com/jtabaco/wc130.asp
:thumb:

Manokski: do you have any update on the C-130s that have recently been subjected to maintenance check/upgrading? how many of the PAF C-130s are "actually flyable?" :armycry:

and what's Asian Aerospace over in Clark doing?

They are doing a fairly good business with the PAF - they did the Huey upgrades as well as the maintenance for the S211s. They are a subsidiary of Singapore Technologies (i think?)

Full text here:

http://pdff.sytes.net/index.php?showtopic=1945

:thumb:

http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/arti...45&parent_id=25

Air Force ships books to schools in ARMM
By Julmunir I Jannaral
THE C-130, the Philippine Air Force’s biggest cargo plane that is usually used to transport soldiers and war armaments to the war zone, delivered a total of 3,682 books yesterday from Manila to Jolo, Sulu.

Carol Capan of the Rotary Club of Makati said “it’s the first time we had this many books sent to our recipients”.

The Rotary Club, in partnership with Pittsburgh-based Brother’s Brother Foundation, has been running a nationwide literacy programme called Books Across the Sea (BATS) since 1988.

Recently, the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) extended assistance to BATS and funded a three-year project with the Rotary Club to distribute books specifically to public schools in the Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao (ARMM), Capan said.

She said the books were brand new, hardbound and published by one of the world’s leading publishers, McGraw-Hill.

Excellent to hear PAF do some extra work to help out the population down south. :thumb:

Air force waits for arrival of delayed Lockheed C-130

The Philippine air force plans to finally take delivery later this month of a Lockheed Martin C-130 transport that has been in refurbishment at local maintenance company Asian Aerospace since February 2004. Air force chief Jose Reyes says the redelivery will expand the Philippine’s C-130 fleet to three aircraft, but that a requirement exists to field at least six.

Asian Aerospace says delivery of the first aircraft has been delayed since initial servicing was completed in June 2004 because of a problem in securing funds for additional work. The air force is now requesting funds from the US government – which paid about $4 million for the first refurbishment and has pledged to cover the cost of preparing a second aircraft to enter work soon at Asian Aerospace – to also pay for the restoration of another two C-130s.

The air force has, meanwhile, completed an in-country upgrade to four of its 14 Rockwell OV-10 Bronco counter-insurgency aircraft, equipping them with four-bladed propellers that improve power performance by up to 30%. Another two upgrade kits were delivered early this month by Arizona-based Marsh Aviation, and the air force is now seeking funds to install the new propellers on its remaining OV-10s. Reyes says proposals to perform a structural and avionics upgrade to the Bronco fleet will not be considered until all the aircraft have completed the propulsion system upgrade.

Flight International

Refreshed Hercules returns to the Philippines
21/02/06
http://www.flightglobal.com/Articles/2006/...hilippines.html

Asian Aerospace gets under way just a day after its namesake, Philippine maintenance company Asian Aerospace, was scheduled to hand back its first refurbished and overhauled Lockheed Hercules to the Philippines air force.

The company says the aircraft, an L-100-20, was grounded, heavily corroded and overdue for programme depot maintenance when it began a service maintenance programme in February 2004 in collaboration with technical partner and primary contractor Lockheed Martin.

Although the originally scheduled $2 million programme was completed by June 2004, a further $2 million of extra work was required before the transport was ready to be handed back to the air force, says chief executive Peter Rodriguez. “It has been a long process,” he says. The air force “didn’t even have the manual for the aircraft”.

Rodriguez, who is based at the Lockheed Martin pavilion this week, says that although his company does not have formal programme depot maintenance (PDM) status, it has all the capabilities expected of a PDM.

Work on a C-130 is about to begin and the company hopes that funding to refurbish a further two C-130s will be forthcoming. Based at Clark Field, it also plans to pursue work from overseas Hercules operators.

Great to hear another PAF C-130 take to the skies again and support the AFP! :thumb: Would it take part in any post-landslide relief by any chance?

with the arrival of this C-130 from Malaysia, how many C-130s of the Philippine Air Force are actually on operation? how many of those stored C-130s can actually be given the necessary upgrades to bring them to operational status?

so far, two PAF C-130s (one of them, a C-130B with tail number 3633) are participating in relief and recovery operations down in Southern Leyte to help the victims of the recent mudslide there.

As long as i could remember that the US Government funded the repair and refurbishment of the C-130 of Philippine Air Force part of the package given by President Bush when he visited manila.

If I I remember from what I've read on a PAF anniversary coffeetable book, there was a tug-of-war between the PAF and a government agency over control of the L100.

That agency was using the plane to ship Philippine currency from the UK when it was still being printed there.

If the L100 can carry that much at such a long range then its mission would have to be for those emergency evacs of filipinos based in other nations should crises erupt in those places.

They could also be used to ship troops, aid workers and materiel to and from abroad for peacekeeping and humanitarian missions.

again the question:

how many C-130s are in inventory within the PAF?
how many are operational?
how many are in storage?
how many are being upgraded?

how many L-100-20 are in inventory within the PAF?
how many are operational?

and lastly,

how many F-27/28 are in inventory within the PAF?
how many are operational?
how many are in storage?
how many are being upgraded?

other infos?...

curious lang po...


-for me the PAF should have 8 C-130s (1 medium-lift squadron) and 8 F-27/28s (1 tactical lift squadron, although the fokker company has closed down in europe)

Try mo Manokski's:

http://www.hueybravo.net/PhilippineAirForce_main.htm

Nice shots of our PAF C-130's


4704


same plane


3633

http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search

Plane refurbished under US grant turned over to PAF

By ANJO PEREZ and LOUIE PEREZ

VILLAMOR AIR FORCE BASE - President Arroyo graced the rites to turn over a C-130 transport plane that had undergone complete overhaul through a -million US grant.

US Ambassador Kristie Anne Kenney turned over the aircraft to the President.

The aircraft, purchased by the Philippine Air Force (PAF) in 1983, had undergone a comprehensive maintenance overhaul at the Clark Economic Zone done by Lockheed Martin Corporation and local subcontractor Asian Aerospace Corporation. The overhaul was funded under the US Foreign Military Financing Program.

A ceremonial pouring of champagne on the aircraft’s nose capped the occasion.

The newly refurbished aircraft is a commercial version of the C-130 Hercules aircraft manufactured by Lockheed Martin.

C-130’s are the PAF’s main workhorse for heavy lift missions that include its fight against terrorism and insurgency as well as disaster response operations.

The overhauled aircraft was last flown on June 27, 2002 after logging in 10,756 flying hours. It was flown to Clark Field in Pampanga on February 18, 2004 to undergo the programmed depot maintenance.

The in-country repair was entirely done at the AAC repair facility with Lockheed Martin engineers overseeing the work.

The maintenance overhaul included the removal and repair of the landing gear, flight controls, engines and propellers. It was also stripped and painted in the PAF color schemes.

The reactivation of aircraft 4593 now gives the PAF three operational C130’s out of their fleet of 14.

Also present during the turn-over ceremony were Defense Secretary Avelino Cruz, AFP Chief-of-Staff General Generoso Senga, and PAF chief Lt. Gen. Jose L. Reyes.


http://www.mb.com.ph/MTNN2006042962693.html

That's 3 operational, 11 to go. At USD4 million refurbishment cost a piece, we need about USD44 million from the modernization fund. Should we allocate or buy other assets? How about trade the F-28 Presidential Fokker?

4593... so this was the Herc Manokski's said was last seen in 1996.

http://www.hueybravo.net/Airforcepage/c130photos.htm

What are the types/models of those 11 remaining C-130's?

Jordan is selling some of their C-130 B for USD1,870,000 as is. A fully overhauled one is for USD4,400,000 only a little bit more than the refurbishment cost we did.


http://www.planecheck.com/index.asp?ent=da&id=5164&cor=y

A Fokker F-28 1000 VIP version is being sold in Germany for USD67,000,000. Our F-28 3000 maybe sold somewhere in that scale. That would boost up our C-130 fleet.

Somebody should work on the sale of that Presidential plane, GMA has given the green light on it.

may i ask a question: why is the PAF using F-27/F-28 transport planes if they are operating the C-130? hiwalay na squadron ba ang F-27/28 fleet sa C-130 fleet ng PAF?...

... tanong lang po for clarification. thanks! :ssalute:

Fokker planes are used as a VIP transport by our government. So they are assigned to a sole unit also thats The Presindetial Airlift Wing. Tama ba ako ?

Only 2 Fokkers are with the 250th, 1 F27 + 1 F28-3000 which was ordered for sale by the President.

The rest are used for short haul flights (troop transport, medevac, supply) rather than make use of the gas guzzler C-130s.

http://www.hueybravo.net/PhilippineAirForce_main.htm

I dont agree for the sale of this Fokker Planes. PAF needs an MPA unit right now. Why dont the office of the President take care of the Upgrade and repair of this fokker planes instead of selling and reassign them to other PAF wing after major upgrade and repair.

250th enjoys a lot of being best equiped unit of PAF. Why not the Office of the President Transfer those Bell Choppers to 505th and instead use the Black Hawk and PUMA for VIP transport.

Related threads:

http://z3.invisionfree.com/Defense_Philipp...?showtopic=3267
http://z3.invisionfree.com/Defense_Philipp...?showtopic=1114

thank you sir saver111...

what about the rest, how many are there in inventory? what squadron are they assigned?

thanks again sir :ssalute:

Check here,

http://www.angelfire.com/ga/batwentyone/transports.html
http://www.angelfire.com/ga/batwentyone/Spe.Msn.html

and here :armyredface:

http://www.hueybravo.net/PhilippineAirForce_main.htm

http://news.inq7.net/breaking/index.php?in...&story_id=77284


65 Filipinos come home from troubled Timor Leste
First posted 02:32pm (Mla time) May 28, 2006
By Nikko Dizon
Associated Press, Inquirer


SIXTY-FIVE Filipinos escaping the violence in Timor Leste returned to the country on Sunday on board a C-130 Philippine Air Force plane, which landed at the Villamor Airbase in Pasay City.

President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo welcomed the returning Filipinos from Dili, some of them teary-eyed and still jittery, as their plane touched down at 2 p.m.

Esteban Conejos Jr., foreign affairs undersecretary for overseas migrant workers affairs, was also on hand to welcome the evacuees, and said embassy officials in Timor Leste had stayed behind to assist other Filipinos wanting to be repatriated.

He added that a C-130 was standing by in the event a second evacuation would be called for.

The evacuees, including children and babies, were brought to an air base lounge where they were given snacks. Many said they decided to leave as the violence spread into Dili neighborhoods where they lived, The Associated Press reported.

"In our street, I saw people chasing each other with machete[s]. Three houses were burned there and four perished in one," Adelyn Pascual, who said she worked at Dili's Ministry for Planning and Finance, told Associated Press Television News.

At night, Pascual said she saw smoke and burning buildings, then she would see bodies sprawled near gutted buildings in the morning. She said while foreigners were not targeted, they could still be hurt in the clashes.

"You can't really avoid bullets because bullets couldn't distinguish foreigners," she said.

"We couldn't do anything but to leave before we got hurt in the chaos. Something bad could happen to us," said Manuel Cruz, an engineer in Dili.

There are about 200 Filipinos working in East Timor as engineers, non-government organization volunteers and Christian missionaries. Those left behind have decided to stay to continue their work despite recent chaos in the fledgling country, foreign affairs department spokesman Gilbert Asuque said.

The Department of Foreign Affairs has issued an advisory urging Filipinos not to travel to East Timor now "due to the unstable security situation there," Asuque said.

The travel advisory was issued Friday, a day after a Philippine police officer, Chief Inspector Edgar Layon, was wounded in Dili when East Timorese soldiers opened fire on unarmed policemen, killing nine people and wounding 27 others, Philippine and UN officials said.

Members of the small nation's 1,400-strong army suspected the policemen of allying themselves with a band of about 600 dismissed soldiers who have engaged in days of deadly clashes with the army. The chaos is most the serious crisis East Timor has faced since it broke from Indonesian rule in 1999.

Layon, 45, is one of five Philippine police officers serving as advisers with the U.N. office in East Timor. He was in stable condition after being hit by a bullet in the stomach and has been airlifted to nearby Darwin, Australia for medical treatment, according to Asuque.

saver...thanx for the plug for http://www.tabacofamily.com/jtabaco/wc130.asp. Will be putting up pages of pix for 747 (3545) and 725 (3520), including PAF livery and abbreviated history up to 1979, if i can get them. Flew 100's of hrs in 747 and a few in 725 since it belonged to another WRS. Airframes and crews were traded among WRS's in the 9WRW as needed to fulfill mission reqs.

Our B mods carried a single internal fuel tanks like you see in the KC-130's in order to meet mission loiter time in the typhoons for JTWC and hurricanes for NHC for 3 6Z-houly fixes plus time out and back. E's and H's had no problems with the wing tanks. J mods can stay airborne well past the 16 hour crew day even w/o inflight refueling capability. 10 WC-130J's of the 53WRS/403W/AFRC are all the wx recon birds left.

Had an offer to visit 3545 in the Mactan boneyard from a good friend who is a retired PN Capt. Neither of us, more so he, had the time when we were there back in JAN05 for the 3rd Global Filipino Net Con. Last time i was in Cebu before that was in 1972. Hope she gets her turn in line at Asian Aerospace at Clark.

I feel for those airframes i flew in like i did for my 1st car, a 56 chevy i had before i enlisted in the USAF in 1968. Hope you can understand that! I no longer feel that way about my cars since as a lolo my gkids are the greatest thing to happen to me...joey

well i be the greatest dreamer in this country if i say that we should buy a C5 galaxy maybe it needs inprofments :salute:

Guys, do we have a C-130 in desert scheme? Just saw one flew this morning at NAIA. A shorter version of the one on the ground (3593?).

I don't know if I'm seeing things, another C-130 in light blue or grey scheme passed by me along the Coastal Road. Looks new.

How many from our fleet are already activated btw?

CNN Money

MTC Awarded $4.1 Million to Perform International C-130 Aircraft Maintenance

DAYTON, Ohio, Dec. 24 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- MTC Technologies, Inc. , an industry-recognized provider of aircraft modernization and sustainment, professional services, C4ISR, and logistics solutions to the Department of Defense (DoD) and national security agencies, announced today it has been awarded a $4.1 million potential value Flexible Acquisition and Sustainment Tool (FAST) task order to perform programmed depot maintenance on a Philippine Air Force C-130 Hercules aircraft.

The one-year task order was awarded by the 561st Aircraft Sustainment Squadron, C-130 Technical Coordination Group at Robins Air Force Base, Georgia. Under the single source. firm fixed price and time and materials contract, MTC is responsible to complete a depot-level maintenance cycle that includes equal interval inspections to bring the aircraft to full operational readiness.

As the prime contractor, MTC will manage the work and provide technical and engineering support from its Aerospace Integration Division office in Warner Robins, Georgia. Replacement and overhauled parts will be supplied by Kellstrom Industries of Miramar, Florida. Asian Aerospace Corporation, located at Clark International Airport, Republic Of The Philippines, will perform the hands-on aircraft maintenance.

This program enhances MTC's emergence as a total solution provider of depot-level maintenance for C-130 aircraft and expands MTC's current continental U.S. unscheduled depot-level maintenance capabilities into the international sector.

"MTC is honored to be selected by the U.S. Air Force C-130 Technical Coordination Group to provide this important depot-level maintenance service. Completing this programmed depot maintenance activity and returning the aircraft to operational service will contribute significantly to the Philippine Air Force's airlift capability. We intend to provide the best possible maintenance services in the shortest possible time," said David Mitchell, MTC Executive Vice President and Director of the MTC Modernization and Sustainment Group. "We are delighted to be teamed with innovative companies like Asian Aerospace Corporation and our longtime partner, Kellstrom Industries, and we are excited about the possibilities of extending this partnership to other overseas operators of the C-130 Hercules."

why is the maintenance outsourced to a private company, PAF has no capability to conduct maintenance work on C-130 aircraft?

most Air Force's C-130 maintenance where done by Private firms, to us, as long as our kababayan will do the maintenance on our Hercs :salute:

Does this particular C130 to be maintaned currently among the 4 reportedly operational C130'S? or is it one of those down the graveyard hangars of Mactan ebuen airbase? i hope that this will be the 5th one among the 13 we reportedly have in inventory. I would like it if the PAF purchase the C27or the smaller hercs so that load capacity will be properly served among the birds. its overkill to transport just people and small supplies on hercs, when we can deliver in a C27 plane is it?burning fuel on a large bird and giving it fatigue life will not be economical

I don't know if we have C-27 spartans but I'll hoped we have some of those:call the Italians & the US

Adrian Yamato,

Stop thinking like an amateur; even in the realm of defense acquisitions, "amateurs talk tactics and equipment, while professionals talk logistics" as the famous quote goes. Oh yes...maybe you should make that call to the US or Italy? Will you pay cash or check? Nothing is free in this world.

The US or the Italians won't care that the AFP is lagging behind when it comes to medium/heavy airlift capability. The funding has to be there first.

The Hungarians and the Nigerians recently got C27s/G.222s to supplement their airlift capabilities; the Chileans, in the meantime, have gotten C-295 Caravans for Maritime Patrol Aircraft, so C-295s shouldn't be totally overlooked as a Herc replacement. The RP can do the same as these other nations if someone in your govt. can give the AFP the adequate funding to do so; however, you should stop hoping for and depending on "hand-me-down" used crap from the US.

P.S. Duminus- it wasn't right for you to just delete my comments. Someone has to knock some sense into some posters who keep saying "oh let's buy this kind of fighter, let's buy that carrier"...sheesh...impractical...impractical. And I will be a Pro, soon enough.

Yup, funding is the main issue plaguing not only the modernization of our AFP but everything else that the common Filipino expects the government to deliver. If those useless congressmen and senators would just make laws and give up their allowances and pork barrels (their staff should also be subject to civil service laws instead of kamag-anak inc.) things would go smoother for the nation. You may say a lot of negative things about Marcos but one good deed he did was to do away with those trapos.

Wouldn't want our boys to keep relying on hand-me-downs. If PGMA can afford brand new machines to transport herself, the same should be done to our men in the field. Nakakaawa nga as their transports are either rented or really dilapidated.

money, money, money. sheesh. :armyroleyes:

on-topic: sadly, we have no choice but to send our C-130s overseas in order for them to be regularly maintained. while we are doing that, we keep on bragging that we have some of the best aircraft technicians in the world. talk about the irony of things. :headbang:

Yup. Yun isang aircraft ng Lufthansa dito pa ginawa as mas practical daw. Most other airlines have their aircrafts serviced here too.

Israeli,

Perhaps the above comment about the RP producing "some of the best aircraft technicians in the world" applies to more to civilian aircraft mechanics or those working for airlines? I am not denigrating those in the PAF, but they certainly could have kept the F5As and possibly even the Crusaders flying longer had they been given the funding and spare parts, and so forth.

:headbang:

The Corsairs of the Greek AF are still flying, in fact; the Brazilians and the Indonesians' A4s (yes they have ex-Israeli AF and RNZAF Skyhawks flying alongisde those Indonesian Su30s and F16s) are also still flying. Therefore, if there is a will and there are allocated resources, there is a way.