Hey bros, anyone of you here know the current price (operational flyaway prices) of the following jet fighters:

1. Su-30K
2. Su-27Sk
3. F-16 Blk50
4. Rafale
5. Typhoon
6. Gripen

Or where can I get a listing of aircraft prices.

Tango bros :)

The basics Su-27, Su-30 from 28million to as high as 34 million US,Malaysian Su-30MKM bought for 50 million per plane, F-16 Block 50s 70 million US as sold to Chile and Poland but same Blk 50s sold to Israel and Greece cost 40-45 million only. F-16 Block 60 for United Arab Emirates reported to be 80 million USD. Rafale, Typhoon around 80 million while Gripen 50-60 million. Price variables depends on systems avionics and weapon packages of course in addition to airframe customizations.

Planning to make your own air force e, Tormentor?

:D

Im partial to the F16, but a block 60 already costing 80million never no way we can afford that

F/A-18C/D Hornet (May 16, 2004): $35 million
F/A-18E/F Super Hornet (June 5, 2004): $57 million
Eurofighter Typhoon (2000): $50 to $60 million
JAS 39 Gripen (1999): $40 million
F-15E Strike Eagle (1998): $43 million
Su-30MK Flanker (2001): $34 million


Source: http://www.aerospaceweb.org

Check it out @ Military Aircraft Prices. Kinda old though.

Another way to costs is to monitor aircraft purchases from the news. Take Poland's purchases:

- 5 used C130Ks from the US for $75m.
- 48 new F16s from the US for $3.8b.

..oh and 23 used MiG29s from Germany for $1 each.

but poland will spend upwards of $40 million to upgrade the MiGs and bring the planes to Euro/NATO standards..

anayways its a sweet deal for the poles from the germans but then they suffered greatly too under the germans in WW2


hey how about the japs selling us a squadron of their F-15J/DJ for 1 yen ? :bow:

Too much even for the Japs :D But they will soon be retiring their F-4s, we can at least gun for those.

oooopppsss!!! there is a problem... Japan, as mandated by its post-World War II Constitution, is NOT allowed to sell arms to any other country. better shift your options away from Japan. :D

If that's the case bro Israeli, we can always try to convince the Japanese to donate the F-4s :D

...as war reparations

well, what's so specialize about those Japanese F-4 Phantoms? are they similar to the German AMRAAM-armed F-4 Phantoms??? :rolleyes:

AFAIK Jap F-4EJ Phantoms are configured for air-defense role only hence no AN/ASQ-9A nuclear weapon control system, AN/ARW-77 Bullpup ASM control system, AN/ASQ-91 weapons delivery system, and AN/AJB-7 bombing system. All omitted to conform to Japanese constitution ban on offensive capabilities. No AMRAAM capability also, only AIM-9 and AIM-7.

F16 C/D or the Gripen are perfect choices. The HOrnets are good for Strike/Attack and Combat Fighter roles :thumb:

:armycheers:

We can now shut off our pipe dreams for sometime - the generals like Gen Garcia have siphoned off the money.

i'd say Gripen is the perfect choice, it's no ordinary fighter. it's a multi-role/swing-role combat aircraft. With the ability to switch operational roles in-flight, at the touch of a button. and much cheaper than those slightly used F16s.

Well maybe the Germans could sell some of their Tornadoes for friendship prices also. :exactly:

Well having them is better than having having no jet fighter planes at all right now right?

nice topic. at least some of us will know what will be the AFP's priorities for now. can't afford pa tayo. unless na maambunan muna tayo like what some of the guys hoped for. :bow:

For me F-18 C/D Hornet/Superhornet is the perfect choice mainly because its role as Fighter, Strike and Maritime aircraft are already rolled in to one.

We need aircraft with Superior ability in MARITIME STRIKE and BVR engagement for interceptor purposes and this can only be found in F-18 Hornet or Superhornet. Peace to all.

Being a maritime strike and fighter itself i prepare two squadron of F18E/f. Maybe we can ask uncle sam for this since we are now a major non nato ally. :armycheers:

read 1 topic in the other forum of a USD91 million budget to acquire new defense equipments for the next 6 years. if this will be shared among the branches as follows

PA - USD31 M
PN - 30 M
PAF - 30 M

what fighter planes can you recommend for the PAF?

30 USD for aquistion on only???

let lets see that a total of 180 USD in 6 years for the army,navy,airforce??

Air force 100 million for Multi-role and 80 million for coin aircraft, anti-ship and air to-air missiles

navy - 100 million for 4 frigates armed corvettes and 80 million for OPV fast Interdiction craft.

Army - 100 million for tank with at least 105 rifled gun, anti-tank/anti-bunker wapons, NVG's and maybe 6 paladins and more howitsers

With an annual budget of USD30M, what is your MRF choice?

HONESTLY IM LOOKING AT THE SU30MK A VERY POWERFUL PLANE BUT I KNOW WE CANNOT DEPART FROM BEING AMERICANISED SO I'D GO FOR F-16E/F.

how many for USD30M? for six years about 6? how about air defense support like radars and armaments for those F16's?

with the budget presented the ideal number would be twelve 12 aircraft of course it should have the specs of a true multi-role with BVR engagement capabilities. Since deliveries will start after 2 years at least 3 service aircrafts should be included so pilots can start honing their skills with the new planes. 30m will be used as down while on the 2nd year 30m should be used to upgrade existing radar facilities and to put another if present setup is deemed inadequate. Our Radars should cover the entire country and entend far beypnd its EEC. And if budget warrants for the improvements of air bases and hangars so that when the planes started to arrive we have in place a secured home for this very precious machines.

Bad news bro. The funds they were telling was for ISO equipments. No high end jets muna. :dunno:

ISO??

OK 30M USD- use this money to bring all OV-10's to operational status with corresponding upgrades of weapons delivery system. also the defenders MD-520 and all hueys availble. Make attack aircraft 24 hours capable with flir store more air to ground munitions and bulletts for 30 cal, 50 cal. and 60 cal machinguns. on the succeeding years aquire more lethal gunships such the cobras and more c-130's

The $91million that people talked about was from DefSec Cruz. It is for a 18-year modernization effort to make peace with the MILF, use the integrated MILF and freed PA divisions-nearly 3 divisions will be freed up- and used to destroy the NPA militarily in conjunction with economic development in NPA areas. the 18-year program will be divided into 2 or 3 phases. phase 1 is to implement a permanent peace with the MILF. phase 2 will be for a 6 year period in which the AFP will spend P30billion for Internal Security Operations, not external defense. P30billion/6 years=P5billion in today's money somewhere arund $91million. this will be when the AFP will go ahead and defeat the NPA with a stick and carrot policy. the next phase is the 12-year modernization for external defenses. Hard time explaining it so read the article, http://www.timawa.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2738 Priority is buying equipment that

. so it goes like $91million-depending on strength of Peso-for 6 years for ISO equipment.

Note, last time the AFP or GRP started about "modernization", was the 15-year modernization in the 90s and not many things came out of that. Hope this one will take place. Things that did come from original 15-year modernization were Armored Recovery Vehicles, first batch of M249s, and radios;3 frigates, 12OPVs, 36multirole fighters, never came.

So, the old modernization program was scrapped and a new one was crafted is it what we discussing? or this only an amendment or shall we say refinement of the previews modernization law? Or was the old modernization law repelled?

Who knows? After the 1997 Asian Economic Crisis, the original modernization plan was placed in the back-burner, and what came out was the "Interim" modernization. instead of 36 new Multirole fighters, it was dropped to 18 second hand interim fighters, which were going to be used as training to get used to new technology and as a defense aircraft, before money can be sourced to buy the 36 new-builds. And as we know now, nothing came from that either. Will this one be the same thing?

illuminating article on the subject of prices:

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Interesting article, too bad no estimates for Russian planes.

Quote:

"The F/A-18E/F Super Hornet is probably costing the US Navy between $81-million and $84-million a plane, and the Eurofighter Typhoon reportedly weighs in with an export price of $83-million each while, for the Dassault Rafale, there is a very loose estimate – between $47-million and $150-million each! Which brings us to the Gripen, which the article estimates to be costing South Africa $68-million a plane."

Super Hornets are advanced in weapons load and capability, the nation likely to order it in a couple of years is Malaysia-probably trade C/D model for E/F plus pay the difference and extra costs-, just waiting for the right time, until things cool over since Mahathir's comments on the US and jews, and not want to look hipocritical, as well as not wanting to look its instigating an arms race-if there isnt one already-, first buy Su-30MKM, which is said to be nearly but not as capable as the Indian -MKI standard-without Israeli parts-. Super Hornets just too damn expensive and high priced. Boeing-McDonnelDouglas could probably sell more F/A-18C/D models, -the Aussies for example upgraded their A/B to C/D standards, and wanted to buy new C/D models,- but C/D production was stopped to make way for the overpriced E/F models, they can try to buy from US navy stocks-. Kuwait is also exploring possibilities of buying a further 10-20 F/A-18 either C/D or E/F aircraft. The Kuwaitis were scewed over on the 1988 deal for the 40C/D models, later to be known as downgraded versions, according to ACIG.ORG. First, the US imposed a provision that deliveries of the 40 aircraft complete, the Kuwaitis had to retire all other fighters in their fleet-A4 and MirageF-1-MirageF-1 fleet was refurbished and upgraded after the GulfWar-. Kuwait C/D aircraft did not have the air to ground avionics for attack roles, even if it did, Kuwaitis were not allowed to purchase the advanced air-to-ground munitions that could be used by the aircraft, speculation that no in-flight refueling capability?-AMRAAM and harpoon was not allowed in the sale during the last years prior to delivery and the Kuwaitis also were limited on what type of missions and uses the Kuwaitis are able to do on the aircraft, all this for $1.9billion or $47.5million each-32C, 8D models-, it is suspected that after the Kuwaitis were screwed over, they cancelled an option of a further 30+aircraft. With the 10-20 aircraft the Kuwaitis are planning to acquire, it is thought that Kuwait is going to press US for upgrade to full C/D capability and the neccessary weapons on the 40 downgraded aircraft.

Russian Su-27 Flanker= $24,000,000

Swedish JAS-39 Grippen= $25,000,000

:tomcat:

Russian MiG-29 Fulcrum= $27,000,000

American F-35A Joint Strike Fighter (USAF Version)= $28,000,000

Japanese Mitsubishi F-2 (Japanese Version of F-16)= $100,000,000

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this guy must be kiding me

It's true, Chowking! :exactly:

Kuwaiti was being fooled by Uncle Sam about F-18C/D Hornet. I think Americans purposely make it a downgraded version of F-18 in order to prolong and do more business with the Kuwaiti.
For sure Kuwaitis will ask for more upgrade in order to bring their acquired F-18C/D Hornet into its real capabilies. More request for upgrade means more business for the Americans.

On the other side, Kuwaitis are Muslim Arabs and these people have a tendency to be highly fanatical and stupid arrogant. Uncle Sam are very careful to their Military technology and they want to make sure that any information will not be pass to potential U.S. enemy.

Doin Military Business with Americans are tricky or the Kuwaitis dont know what kind of aircraft they need. Peace to all.