a rather blunt question but I'm rather fed up with their shenanigans, I think PMAayers are the cause for all troubles in the Philippine military. :angry:

hoy wombat its not a question its a statement and not all pmayers are bad tomatoes

Kindly explain why they are the cause. :crawling:

i second the motion..call me biased or what,but I don't believe that all PMAyers are bad tomatoes...

hinde nga lhat bad tamatis pero ang mga gud tamatis ayaw namang sawayin at kinukunsinti pa ang mga bad tamatis eh di pareho lang sila lahat... :rifle:

Ganun nga. If you are not part of the solution then you are a part of the problem. That goes for everybody, 'cept we expect more from peemayers. Diba lang?

and this cannot be easily corrected, deeply rooted na sa ayer psyche ang mistah brotherhood kaya in both good and bad situations, walang iwanan talaga except lang kung matters of national survival like what happened during the coups de etat but even then ayer mistahs from government and rebel sides manifested these negative characteristics

The life of PMA cadets revolves around strict adherence to the honor code. It is a must for all cadets not only to know the code but to practice and practice and make it a way of life. The Cadet Honor Code is what distinguishes a PMA cadet from students of other institutions.

THE HONOR CODE

WE, THE CADETS DO NOT LIE, CHEAT, STEAL NOR TOLERATE THOSE WHO DO

1. A cadet does not lie. In his dealing with others, a cadet tells the truth, regardless of the consequences. He does not quibble. He does not make evasive statements.

2. A cadet does not cheat. A cadet does not defraud others nor does he take undue advantage of them.

3. A cadet does not steal. A cadet does not take any personal property of another without the latter’s consent. He does not keep for himself anything that he finds which does not belong to him.

4. A cadet does not tolerate any violation of the Code. A cadet is bound to report any breach of the Code that comes to his attention. He does not countenance by inaction honor violations; if he does, he becomes party to such a violation and he himself is as guilty as the violator.

http://www.pma.ph/cadet/Cadet.htm

The development of character is one of the crucial aspects in the training of a cadet. It is a fundamental objective which the Philippine Military Academy strives to achieve through the Honor Code and the Honor System. This system is a unique system which is administered by the cadets themselves. Through the Honor System, the cadet binds himself to the Code which states that:

"We, the cadets, do not lie, cheat, steal, nor tolerate among us those who do so."

A Cadet does not lie. He always tells the truth regardless of the consequences. He does not quibble or make evasive statements. A cadet does not cheat. He does not defraud others nor does he take undue advantage of them. Whatever credit he earns in any cadet activity is wholly his own. A cadet does not steal. He does not take the personal property of another without the latters consent. He does not keep for himself anything that he finds which does not belong to him. A cadet does not do any of these things and he does not tolerate any violations of the Code. He is bound to report any breach of the code that comes to his attention. He does not countenance by inaction any honor violation; if he were to, he becomes a party to such violation and he himself is as guilty as the original violator. The Honor System transcends all ranks and class barriers. No cadet, regardless of his rank and class is above the System. No violator of the Code is granted immunity. No cadet who violates the Code can redeem himself from the violation he commits.

The spirit of the Honor System is based on two basic questions:

* Do I intend to deceive?
* Do I intend to take undue advantage?

If a cadet can answer "No" to both questions, he is not guilty of any honor violation. Once caught or reported for an honor violation, the cadet is investigated by the Honor Committee composed of cadets. There are twenty-five members; one representative from the first, second, third, and fourth classes in each of the eight companies. The first and second class representatives are the voting members, while the thirdclass are the recorders. If an honor case is to be formalized, the Honor Court composed of eight voting members and two recorders conduct a formal fearing. A unanimous vote of "Guilty" is needed to convict a cadet of an honor violation. If found guilty, the cadet is asked to resign for the good of the service. The proceedings of an Honor Committee is a privilege communication and known only to the committee and the Superintendent. Once caught or reported for an honor violation, the cadet is investigated by the Honor Committee composed of cadets.

As the Class of 1951 would succinctly describe in their article on the Honor Committee, one could get a tangible picture of the impact, implication, and relevance of the System in the Cadet Corps. The following are exerpts which were taken from that article:

"The Honor Code is our pride as it is our heritage; we will hold its trust long after we have left the gray line. We will be guided by its principles of fearless truth regardless of consequence, a sine qua non in our profession of arms."

"We admit that every man who enters the Academy has been subjected to different environments which we cannot expect to change in a short time, but we strive to help him i his adjustment to a new system whee his word is accepted as the truth. Emphasis is placed on the fact that a rendition of a report with a knowledge of the existence of an anomaly is dishonesty intolerable among the group of gentlemen the Corps endeavors to produce."

"Our Code does not deviate from the universal concept of Honor. It demands the truth ... nothing else, but the truth ... both by act and implication. Each cadet becomes a zealous guardian to this earmark of the Corps and will report another or himself for a violation of honor. It is in keeping this priceless legacy from our predecessors that we seek to transmit it unblemished to the unending gray line."

Truth is the virtue of the Corps. But as in all generalities there exists an exception, a certain individual will fail the trust exacted of him by the Code. Herein lies the main task for which the Honor Committee, a purely cadet body was organized. It should be noted that in the past, it was purely an investigating body and does not have the authority to impose a punitive action against the erring cadet. A formal investigation of the honor irregularity is undertaken and unanimous votes of its members determine whether the cadet is guilty or innocent of a violation of honor. Confidential reports of the case with accompanying recommendations are then forwarded to the Commandant of Cadets for official action.

To foster the spirit of truth which the Code aims to imbibe in each cadet and to prevent the occurrence of practices inconsistent with its principles, the Honor Committee has made it a policy to conduct periodic lectures to each class giving its interpretation of various controversial points that may arise. With the entrance of each plebe class on April 1, it assumed the responsibility of indoctrinating the fourthclassmen to the Code under which they had to live as cadets and future officers.
http://www.angelfire.com/trek/nevcal/code.html

Very ironic. Nuff said. :armytwisted:

if we make a conclusion for a body based from what we observe on a part.. then that's a fallacy of combination.. in short of simple language.. don't generalize.. madami pa din ang cavaliers na still living by motto of the academy..

kaya nga ang question bakit ang mga good tomatoes e tikom ang bibig e nandyan naman pala sa honor code and if i may quote again:

gets mo na pre?

I have been avoiding this discussion as I have a rather bias opinion of the PMA. There was a time that I have been seriously thinking of joining the PMA right of out of my high school ROTC. So you see I believe in the ideals, traditions and deference to PMA... having said that, now you understand.

But yes, i do think PMAers are part of the problem. For none other than not doing enough to stem the tide of corruption in the AFP. Coups and Oakwood-type insurrections are not the answer... You always hear how most of plotters are batchmates/mistahs. So there, proof enough of what PMA graduates have done. The mistahs cannot sever their ties to their batchmates.. even for the betterment of the republic...bayan ko...

Tsk tsk.... sad...

aray ko po!

nakuuu muktab ang labo mo naman, basahin mo ulit ang post ni shadowsniper -----di ba HONOR CODE FOR PMA CADETS lang yan ----

when they graduate and become 2LTs - theyre already exempted from the HONOR CODE kya ang mga ayer MISTAH at OMERTA ang daily prayer ng mga yan :rifle: :rifle: :rifle:

o baka ako ay nalilito lamang nye he he he he :demon:

many peemayers have died fighting for this republic.. from the products of the Academia Militar of the first Philippine Republic up to the graduates of the present PMA. and contrary to the popular opinion that peemayers from the same class cannot sever ties, peemayers are primarily professional soldiers who's sense of duty to the republic is higher than their commitment to their mistahs and they regard honor as a way of life.. .and during the time of marcos, UP rotc graduates are the people on the top of the hierarchy and not peemayers.. now don't you think its proper to point them as the culprit iof the present corruptions in the AFP and not the peemayers.. in the first place Marcos politicize the whole AFP.. and idealism exists among the cavaliers.. thats why civilians often misunderstood some cavaliers who want to create changes in our society.. yes, PMA culture is the vices of the Philippine society and the values of the society is the vices of some of the products of PMA..they may not be among the best of all men.. but they have brought out the best of themselves ... but the real question is where will their path lead? to the glory.. for those who cherish the ideals of courage, integrity and loyalty... or to oblivion for those who forgot the value of honor and integrity...for this is not a predestined destination..and it involves many decisions in every corner.. there are many paths to walk upon.. but only in the path of heroes, where we can find... a true and honorable man"


"....Purificacion said the PMA culture should not be blamed for why these "gentlemen" were suddenly described as "rogue soldiers" by the government and the media.

"Their development as soldiers did not start in the academy. It starts when he faces reality. The nation makes them. PMA gave them education and the specific knowledge to become military officers. Their idealism comes from their characters," he said.

"Some of them fought in Mindanao. That's where they learned how to really survive. Here in the PMA, they have the tools to achieve their goals. But there, they don't have bullets and other tools and they are expected to perform. That's when they see that something is wrong and that is what they are fighting for," Claravall said.

"Their alienation can be seen in their experiences," he added...."
http://www.inq7.net/reg/2003/jul/30/reg_7-3.htm


An Alternative View On The Makati Mutiny
Personal Paper by Rolly Malinis ‘71


We have heard several arguments against “heroic” attitude of some young cavaliers. Since 1986, in some way or another, military men who rebelled against government corruptions and inequalities are branded differently depending on who is talking. The government and their allies have called them “traitors/murderers/rogues”. But a number of people, who wanted to see reforms, consciously or unconsciously have labeled them as “heroes”. This paper will attempt to offer an alternative view regarding this matter.

This brief has three purposes: 1) to present a sociological model that can offer some explanation to the military minds of these young rebels and those before them; 2) to test the effectiveness of various proposals with the model as the criterion; and 3) to offer some useful insights as aid to finding the right approach to a more lasting solution to the problem.

Is the heroic attitude of our military people unique only to the Philippines? If it is, then by all means, let us resolve it with this basic assumption. But if it happened also in other countries, then we could take advantage from their experiences to help us understand them and the surrounding problems.

The fact is that American military history have undergone the same experience, as we are today where military people thought of themselves as heroes and hence could defy the government to advance their idealistic views.

How do social scientists explain these heroic military mind and attitude? An American author, Mr. Alfred McCoy in his book “Closer Than Brothers: Manhood at the Philippine Military Academy” thought of the classic model from American sociology by Morris Janowitz and Samuel Huntington. This model isolated the factors that led Western officers away from an eighteenth-century heroic ideal toward a modern professionalism where the military is subordinated to civilian authority. According to the book, the model states that modern military is transformed from the “the heroic leader” into the “military manager” where “a uniformed civil servant subordinated to civilian authority”.

Despite McCoy’s reluctance to this effect, I believe that the rebellion by the young Filipino officers and those before them may be interpreted consistent with the sociology model. The explanation can be implicitly read from the books own statement saying the model “seems to work best for societies, like the United States, where the change is complete”. At that time, the US was on its state of high economic development and stable democratic and efficient government. As the book reported, the Philippine government chose the Western ideal of military professionalism when it opened PMA in 1936. President Quezon sought the support of American advisors to make it operational. From then on, the idea of military professionalism was ingrained in the mind of every graduate from the pre-war classes to the post-war classes.

The truth of the matter is that the Philippine condition was not ripe for the final and complete transition to military professionalism. The situation was still very volatile. Once the young and idealistic military minds was exposed to a high degree of political corruption, coupled with the presence of radical political ideas, global changes and given a strong leader, the spirit of idealism, patriotism, and public service planted in the heart and mind of every graduate would be aroused. Breakdown of military professionalism or socialization was inevitable. Yes, the Philippine military development is still in the “heroic” phase. There could be no short cut. As the sociological model is saying the transition is from a “heroic” leader to “military manager”. For the Philippines, that change will only be complete when the country shall have achieved that state of high economic development and stable and efficient government. In the mean time, the only thing to do is continue to inject that spirit of military professionalism to the military and lessen the impact of factors causing them to break away from this fragile state of professionalism.

In the light of the above model, let us review the different ideas that came out as a result of the Makati rebellion.

Will abolishing PMA solve the problem? Corollary to that, did the US decide to abolish West Point? The fact that West Point is still here seems to suggest that the military school is not the problem. Abolishing West Point to them would mean depriving the American nation of people with character and idealism.

Will changing the curriculum of PMA solve the problem? I am sure it will help. Now, you should know though that the solution is only a dot vis-à-vis the reforms needed.

Will diminishing the idealism or camaraderie or mistah system among PMA graduates solve the problem? Can we isolate mistah system from the total PMA culture? Is a minus or a plus?

Does the proposal to create separate academies help solve the problem? Will these not only create subset of PAF, PN, or PA heroics? No matter what you may call these heroes, the light to spark rebellion will still be there as long as the external factors are kept unchanged.

Will punishing the different officers and men responsible for the Makati rebellion prevent its occurrence in the future? - Maybe for a short time period. But remember, these people are human being who react to its environment. Give them a world where social and economics conditions are worst coupled with corruption, inequalities, and government and civilian sector’s unresponsiveness for the need to reform, rebellion or anything of that sort will soon explode.

Will reforming the AFP alone help prevent the recurrence of rebellion? If you were dozing when reading this paper, I have to tell you again that the AFP is only part of the total solution. Reforming the AFP leaving the other areas constant may not be enough to create an atmosphere where the fully transformed “military managers” will persist.

Let us extend our journey outside of the military circle.

The Filipino people would be grateful for the efforts of PGMA and countless senators, congressmen, justices, businessmen, professors, media, students, and protestors to deal with the problems. Some of them have even overextended their enthusiasm. A lot of cavaliers and military soldiers have been mocked, humiliated, harassed, sued, branded as “spoiled brats, traitors, rogues, etc” as if getting rid of them will remedy the situation. The PMA once again is under heavy fire. I wish to issue this reminder to all of them – don’t let their impassioned appeal blind them with the fact that theirs are not the absolute solution … because they are indeed part of the problem too!

Let us look at it in another way. These young people and all of us are the problems. The only difference is that they are impatient and willing to sacrifice their careers and reputations to make us realize the existence of the problems and the need to act on them; while we who are on the sidelines who see the rebels as the sole problem have refused to acknowledge that our failure to change, reform, and do our jobs are responsible for the rebel’s behavior. Ironically, we are the ones that push them to commit mutiny.

Should we run after the rebels only? Should we not run also for the SND for his failure to curb corruption on the military? Should we not run after the different secretaries, the congressmen, the senators, the justices, other government officials for their failure to institute reforms, check corruption, and all those inequalities in their respective areas? Should we not run after the President for her failure in governance? Should we not run after the businessmen and the people for tolerating these corruption and inefficiencies in the government? We will end up with a very long list but there is one compelling conclusion. We, ourselves, are the ones that created the environment encouraging the Makati mutiny. The nightmare for the rebels will soon be a reality – they will be punished, jailed, and deprived of decent living for themselves and their families. The people who encouraged the act will remain scathe free. Very unPMA like, is it not?

Right now, what we need are strong leaders who have the courage to admit the truth that they failed. We need strong leaders who would not blame others for their failure to govern. We need strong leaders who would accept responsibility for failure of governance. We need strong leaders who would remain focus on the issues and not on attacking personalities.

Now more than ever, we need strong leaders who would rise up to rally the people/subordinates to get involved in the total approach solution to the problem.

As final parting words, I hope it would be easier for you to realize now that the actions we are seeing around are mere stopgap measures with a short-range impact. Yes, my dear cavaliers so far our experts are shooting the dancing “ballerina” and no permanent solution is yet in sight not unless we recognize that -- we are not the solution; we are the problem. Hence, the nation's focus should be less on scrutinizing the military men but more on creating an environment where: government efficiencies reign; the economy blooms; and moral values are high. Then and only then can we achieve a long lasting solution to the problem.
http://www.pmaclass71.org/heroes.htm

Remember, there was also a West Pointer on top.

Thanks shadow... Enough said.. How long until the conditions are right for the whole AFP to do their duty as the defenders of the constitution.. word for word... It cannot come soon enough..

I must admit that when I heard on the news about the Oakwood mutiny, I was incensed... not because young officers (yes, PMA graduates included) have dared to firestart change but I thought that there was a political machine behind the whole thing..once again, for this cannot be the first or last time young idealists have been pawned by wicked politicians and businessmen... unsubstantitated or not... I must also admit that I wish they've just sat in the background and start reform silently from within.. and I could be shot the next time I took a holiday, but what I meant by working silently within is two tapshots to the head of the corrupt generals and politicians! (yes, even their own generals, mistahs or whatever... :pistols:

Now, I'm sorry for saying that out loud for I know that can backfire and isntead of making things better, make it worse... even the best ideals are corrupted by violence...

The ideals of the PMA are sound... their honour code is sound... who has time for ideals and honour when there is money to be made? (sarcasm)

I do wish the PMAers would take the lead in reforming the AFP. because I am bias of the PMA!.. men of honour, tradition and ideals always must take the lead in setting things right....

The only thing necessary for the triumph of EVIL is for GOOD men to do NOTHING...
heres to the PMA.... :armycheers:

west pointers are not peemayers.. and besides Marcos is an UP ROTC products, including Ver and other top commanders.. and even Ramos, a west pointer, has no power over the AFP when he acted as acting AFPCS when Ver was implicated in Aquino assassination.. coz Ver always have the decision.

:agree:

As a former officer of the AFP, I am greatly pained by the facts pointed out in this thread but I have to agree with most of it - especially the inaction and silence of the good and principled Ayers. As Pendejo said, they are themselves inutile and useless.

I tried to go against the tide when I was still in the service but It got me nothing but backwater assignments and the expected freeze in promotions. I have no regrets nor do I harbor ill-feelings, but what I am worrying now is the state of our armed forces.

To the "good tomatoes" I have this question:

WHEN WILL CONDONING THE SHENANIGANS OF YOUR MISTAHS STOP?

consider this hypothetical scenario.. if you're a new graduate from PMA, idealistic ka pa.. you want to have a perfect society, you want to change the sytem to have a truly professional AFP and you want to create changes inside the sytem of the military institution.. why? because of idealism..but always officers will say to them,"wait till you become." now if that graduate reaches the rank of col or gen, when the probability of promotion is relevant to the number of your friends from politicians in the Commision of Appointment.. realistic na siya.. why would you change a system that the politicians and yourself benefited from.. what about your family, career or political ambition? would you sacrifice everything for idealism? kaya mo bang ipakain ang idealism sa family mo? as long as politics will not stay away from military institution and senior officers will not be professional then idealism will always go to drain...what we need is an objective civilian control over the military and not subjective.. changes from the bureaucracy must be implemented for us to have a corruption free military.. now,the conclusion of the matter is.. when reality bites.. idealism slowy fades away...

What organization, civilian or military, government or private sector, is immune from politics?

To blame the current political state of the AFP completely on Marcos and the Vanguards is absurd. Politics is ingrained in the Filipino -- remember, even the early revolutionaries (Bonifacio - Aguinaldo) were at each other's throats because of politics.

This was my point when I pointed out the presence of a West Pointer.

Put two people in an organization in competition for a promotion, and you will always end up with some form of political maneuvering

. . . especially from the one who knows he can't compete on merit alone.

...... AND THEY ARE HOT TEMPERED.

They get easily insulted. Its a manifestation of inferiority .... if it ain't just a result of battle exposures.

THEY THINK THEY KNOW ENOUGH.

Maybe it's one of the reasons why those 4ID DRCs got murdered.

Check a series of quotations from the SR website.

Click here Strike Musangs

then go to REALTHING page.

good site flipzi :thumb:

sad to say we singaporeans canot make a site with real combat although we have the best equipped armed forces in south east asia...i reall like our goverment to send combat troops to iraq and afghanistan so singaporean gain experience :gatling:

Thanks for the compliment!

Hey, buddy.

You should be thankful for not seeing your govt sending troops to Iraq.

IT'S COMPLICATED.

You have to consider that your country is reaping the bounty of economic progress today.

If the Al-Qaeda recognizes you as a target, then imagine the catastrophic consequences it would create.

There are other areas where you can send your troops to do your part in UN's missions...... but better be not at this time and not in Iraq at this time.

:thumb:

:closed:

By the way,

Being a PMAer isn't precisely the problem here. :nono:

It's about what some of them have become...

..... and the ideals, tactics and strategies that some commanders are still bent on using.

LET'S NOT TRY TO DEMORALIZE THE PMAers HERE.

LET'S NOT EVEN LET OURSELVES BE THE SOURCE OF INSULTS TO THE SOLDIERS INVOLVED IN THE DRAFTING OF THE OPERATIONAL PLAN WITH REGARD TO THE AGUSAN ENCOUNTER.

THE CREATION OF A "DIVISION RECON COY OR DRC" IS STILL A MANIFESTATION OF THE GENERAL'S PURSUIT OF IMPROVING THE CAPABILITIES OF THEIR ORGANIZATION.

THE AGUSAN ACCIDENT MAY HAVE JUST BEEN ANOTHER CASE OF AN ENCOUNTER WHEREIN EVEN THE BEST OF SOLDIERS WOULD NOT SURVIVE BECAUSE OF THE OVERWHELMING FACTOR OR FACTORS, WHATEVER THESE ARE, THAT DICTATED THE COURSE OF THAT INCIDENT PROOVED TO BE INSURMOUNTABLE.

LET'S PRAY THAT THESE MILITARY MEN ON THE OTHER HAND WILL BE RECEPTIVE AND HUMBLE ENOUGH TO DECIPHER WHAT THIS
SERIES OF MESSAGES IS TRYING TO PUT ACCROSS.

MAY THIS MISTAHs TAKE OUR WORDS CONSTRUCTIVELY.

:exactly:

By the way,

Being a PMAer isn't precisely the problem here. :nono:

It's about what some of them have become...

..... and the ideals, tactics and strategies that some commanders are still bent on using.

LET'S NOT TRY TO DEMORALIZE THE PMAers HERE.

LET'S NOT EVEN LET OURSELVES BE THE SOURCE OF INSULTS TO THE SOLDIERS INVOLVED IN THE DRAFTING OF THE OPERATIONAL PLAN WITH REGARD TO THE AGUSAN ENCOUNTER.

THE CREATION OF A "DIVISION RECON COY OR DRC" IS STILL A MANIFESTATION OF THE GENERAL'S PURSUIT OF IMPROVING THE CAPABILITIES OF THEIR ORGANIZATION.

THE AGUSAN ACCIDENT MAY HAVE JUST BEEN ANOTHER CASE OF AN ENCOUNTER WHEREIN EVEN THE BEST OF SOLDIERS WOULD NOT SURVIVE BECAUSE OF THE OVERWHELMING FACTOR OR FACTORS, WHATEVER THESE ARE, THAT DICTATED THE COURSE OF THAT INCIDENT PROVED TO BE TOO INSURMOUNTABLE.

LET'S PRAY THAT THESE MILITARY MEN ON THE OTHER HAND WILL BE RECEPTIVE AND HUMBLE ENOUGH TO DECIPHER WHAT THIS
SERIES OF MESSAGES IS TRYING TO PUT ACCROSS.

MAY THESE MISTAHs TAKE OUR WORDS CONSTRUCTIVELY. :exactly:



:closed:

and why should they be demoralized with the comments here, they are supposed to be both psychologically and physically stable and should be affected by the posts here...some are valid anyway especially the one about good pmayers doing nothing against bad pmayers :demon:

They aren't that emotionally stable, ..... that's because of the grim realities they've encountered while performing their duties.

I've proven that many times. hehehe .... learned a lot from those too! :thumb:

DAMN....YOU ARE RIGHT!

GOOD PMAers ARE NOT DOING ENOUGH WITH REGARD TO THESE BAD MISTAHS.

OH WELL, :whogives:

LET'S JUST LET THE COURSE OF THEIR BATTLES STATE THE VERDICT FOR THESE BAD GUYS. :bs:

mr. flipzi please describe these grim realities that causes emotional instability. I like you because you make a good captain of a debating team and hindi sa pag-sisipsip....mas magaling ka pa makipag talakayan kaysa kay AFP spokeman Lt.Col. Lucero :bow: :bow: :bow:

Mainly because they've lost friends in their battles.

Some were more than friends.

Corruption in the military and dissatisfaction aren't as strong as that of the first cause.

Typical.... feeling of losing a friend ..kungbaga.

There's also this factor, as an effect of knowing that their enemies may be anywhere and someone is just an enemy in disguise ...

...they would NORMALLY think that you are among their enemies when you try to refute what they naturally believe in.

So better express CLEARLY what you want to put accross. Else, you'll end up getting disowned.

Kaya don't make them mad. Iwas ka sa mga babaeng military...grabe magalit ang mga yan pag yan ang usapan...

...mumurahin ka mula ulo hanggang kalyo ng paa mo!

Love you ate BB! hehehe

uy ...bagay na bagay sa PC table ko ..eagle na bigay mo huh
:dontgetit:

ayaw ko manligaw ng militar na babae dahil mababa sweldo...pareho kaming maghihirap kasi.

dapat may sapat na de-programming ang mga militar para sa transition into civilian life.

ANo kaya gawin natin silang mga propesor sa UP pag nag-resign para maubos ang mga NPA sa UP?

Iyan namang mga NPA mahilig din sa torture at human rights violation.

pag-ikaw di nagbayad ng Permit to Campaign bawal mangampanya sa lugar nila.

ang gaganda ng images sa website mo! astig ang mga SR! sana magkaroon ka ng high-resolution images tulad ng ginagawa ng marines.

hindi lang yun.. now if we look at the scenario in the battlefield.. a fresh graduate in a platoon, leading men older than him, some are old enough to be his father.. with families of their own.. now the life of these men and their families hang on every decision that the officer must do.. and sometimes these soldiers die because of the lack of support from our gov't, and lack of understanding from the people they've sworn to protect.. it's sad to know that many people are living in extravagance in the city while our soldiers are dying in the fields.. at ang masakit pag may napatay na NPA, they keep asking for justice for the NPA samantalang pag sundalo binibigyan lang ng flag at medal and sometimes their families are neglected by the gov't..now, we must not blame the officers nor the soldiers for their action.. rather we must salute them for their bravery and sacrifice for our country... whatever we do.. kahit gaano mo pinaghandaan ang isang operation.. we must always be prepared to accept casualties because the enemy's are mobile and they have the element of surprise.. and sometimes murphy's law always prevail.." If anything can go wrong, it will"..

Pagkolekta nga ng pension problema pa sa pamahalaan..sa RSBS at Veterans Administration.
:bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:

ano na kaya nangyari sa 130 million peso AFP budget for Kevlar and body armor? I wonder if it is being distributed now?

:bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:

shadowsniper, SR ka?

Corruption in philippines we got it from spain... Few are honest! Get out in the service and study nursing and go abroad. You will make lots of money.

Corruption, we learned from Spain?

I agree. That's how a colonizer must do to get the support of the locals.

The problem is, after the occupation, the Filipinos failed to get rid of that practice.

Corruption is really one of the darksides of the early days of our nationhood.

Our beloved nation needs to grow nonetheless....

...and ridding us of corruption will speed up our growth and rescue us all from this trail of greed and betrayal.

:patrioticpinoy: