Title: R05 HMS Invincible Sunk in 1982
Description: itīs not a Joke!!!
55Heroes - October 25, 2005 02:14 AM (GMT)
you like see the true??
In 1982 Argentina retake Falklands/Malvinas Islands.
UK send your Task Force called "Corporate Operation".
the leadership of this fleet was the R05 HMS Invincible that was attacked in 30 of May of 1982 by 2 SUE and 4 A4 Skyhawk.
The last AMM39-Exocet available was sent reaching the aircraft carrier and hit also with 3 250 bombs of dropped by 2 of the 4 Skyhawk.
UK always denied the existence of the attack, although at the first moments the international radios confirmed it.
R06 HMS Illustrious was send quickly to South Atlantic to replace the HMS Invincible, nevertheless this it returned to UK 3 months but late that most of the fleet without reasons so that it has happened such delay. :dunno:
important changes in the armament that presented to its return and changes of appearance indicate that the original R05 never returned to UK.
Where is the R05?? :wow:
flipzi - October 25, 2005 02:42 AM (GMT)
Where did you get this info?
Can you get us any article related to this?
Welcome to PDFF, by the way. :armycheers:
55Heroes - October 25, 2005 02:53 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (flipzi @ Oct 25 2005, 10:42 AM) |
Where did you get this info?
Can you get us any article related to this?
Welcome to PDFF, by the way. :armycheers: |
:armycheers:
Philippines and Argentina have much in common.
Very thanks for your atention. :specool:
You can see more about in this websites:
http://www.elmalvinense.s5.com/english/in82.html http://www.britains-smallwars.com/Falklands/Exocet.htmlthe original R05 HMS Invincible have 194m of overall length.
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/i...ible/specs.html Strangely now it has 210m,
http://www.hazegray.org/worldnav/europe/uk.htmnot itīs the same ship!! :nono:
arvcab - October 25, 2005 05:00 AM (GMT)
hmmm never heard of this before.... :drunk: :thumb:
saver111 - October 25, 2005 06:02 AM (GMT)
If the length was your basis, wasn't there the possibility that it was lenghten during its refitting as part of improvements? It was refitted in 2001.
http://pdff.sytes.net/index.php?showtopic=1883| QUOTE |
| R06 HMS Illustrious was send quickly to South Atlantic to replace the HMS Invincible, nevertheless this it returned to UK 3 months but late that most of the fleet without reasons so that it has happened such delay |
If it returned after 3 months to the UK, was that sufficient enough to make another aircraft carrier? And a new aircraft carrier is news to the whole world and is quite iimpossible to hide.
jammerjamesky - October 25, 2005 06:41 AM (GMT)
I cant believe it.. But this need more confirmation and additional documents.
:dunno:
fieldmouse - October 25, 2005 09:29 AM (GMT)
another conspiracy theory ??
Wushu - October 25, 2005 09:44 AM (GMT)
how could the brits gag every one of their sailors, engineers, painters, welders, etc. involved in this operation from talking?
strange......
55Heroes - October 25, 2005 12:14 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (saver111 @ Oct 25 2005, 02:02 PM) |
If the length was your basis, wasn't there the possibility that it was lenghten during its refitting as part of improvements? It was refitted in 2001.
http://pdff.sytes.net/index.php?showtopic=1883
| QUOTE | | R06 HMS Illustrious was send quickly to South Atlantic to replace the HMS Invincible, nevertheless this it returned to UK 3 months but late that most of the fleet without reasons so that it has happened such delay |
If it returned after 3 months to the UK, was that sufficient enough to make another aircraft carrier? And a new aircraft carrier is news to the whole world and is quite iimpossible to hide.
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:thumb:
refit was for changing armament, varying the inclination of sky jump and other mayor repairs, but never they could have modified the length overall of the ship.
See this link.
http://www.publicservice.co.uk/pdf/dmj/iss...wRice%20ATL.pdf :wow:
55Heroes - October 25, 2005 12:21 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (saver111 @ Oct 25 2005, 02:02 PM) |
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| QUOTE | | R06 HMS Illustrious was send quickly to South Atlantic to replace the HMS Invincible, nevertheless this it returned to UK 3 months but late that most of the fleet without reasons so that it has happened such delay |
If it returned after 3 months to the UK, was that sufficient enough to make another aircraft carrier? And a new aircraft carrier is news to the whole world and is quite iimpossible to hide.
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the HMS Illustrious was almost completely finished for end of the war reason why it was not necessary to construct a new one to carrier to make the change of urgency. The R05 Vince and the R06 Lusty were uniques short hull (194m) carriers of invincible class, reason why the change could be made without raising suspicions. :thumb:
55Heroes - October 25, 2005 06:37 PM (GMT)
because the HMS Invincible would have more on the South Atlantic to remain 3 months without touching port,
with the crew traumatized by the war if this already it had finished?:dunno:
UK had HMS Illustrious and 2 Centaur Class Carrier (HMS Hermes and HMS Bulward) to protect the Malvinas/Falklands from the sea and the new airport in land for the F-4 Phantoms.
this is very suspicious !!
MSantor - October 25, 2005 08:30 PM (GMT)
Maybe there was a fourth Illustrious Class that existed since the class first went to service and was in reserve and replaced the Invincible after her demise...
STILL, I DON'T GIVE THIS CONSPIRACY THEORY/COVER UP THEORY ANY CREDIBILITY.
Why would a liberal, parliamentary democracy like Great Britain hide such a huge loss from its people? It didn't hide the Lockerby Terrorist Bombing from the 80s, and it didn't hide the defeat at Dunkirk during World War II...
Duminus - October 26, 2005 06:49 AM (GMT)
The only surface ship bigger than a destroyer that was sunk during the Falklands War was the Argentine cruiser ARA General Belgrano. If the Argies sortied out their lone aircraft carrier, the 25 de Mayo, it would have been sunk also.
Wushu - October 28, 2005 08:24 AM (GMT)
also, another interesting tidbit: the falklands war is the only war where a nuke sub fired in anger..... a brit sub fired torpedoes, against the belgrano, i think.... funny thing was, the brit sub crew had no idea that they had sunk their target because after firing, they crash dived like crazy to avoid the expected counterattack.....
page mcney - April 22, 2007 10:36 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Wushu @ Oct 28 2005, 04:24 PM) |
| also, another interesting tidbit: the falklands war is the only war where a nuke sub fired in anger..... a brit sub fired torpedoes, against the belgrano, i think.... funny thing was, the brit sub crew had no idea that they had sunk their target because after firing, they crash dived like crazy to avoid the expected counterattack..... |
ACTUALLY THE BRIT NUCLEAR SUB (ATTACK SUB) USED 3 WORLD WAR II TYPE OF TORPEDOS (NON-GUIDING, STRAIGHT FIRING) AT THE GEN BELGRANO. LIKE THEIR PREDECESSORS FROM WORLD WAR II, THEY ARE STALKING THE WARSHIP AND HAVE CALCULATED ITS DISTANCE FROM THEIR SUBMARINE AND THE CAPTAIN OF THE SUB ISSUED THE USE OF 3 WWII TYPE TORPEDOS FOR THE MAIN ATTACK AND 2 WIRE-GUIDED TORPS FOR ATTACK/DEFENCE PURPOSES IF AND ONLY IF THE WWII-TYPES DID NOT HIT THEIR TARGET (BELGRANO).
WHEN THE BELGRANO ENTERED THE 200KM EEZ OF THE FALKLANDS AND GIVEN THE GO SIGNAL FROM GHQ TO ATTACK, THEY (BRITS) FIRED THE 3 WWII TYPE TORPS AND YAS THEY DIVED TO A CERTAIN DEPTH AS PER SUBMARINE PROCEDURE WHEN ATTACKING AN ENEMY WARSHIP.
BUT THEY USED SONAR AND OTHER DETECTION SYSTEM AND THEY HEARD THE TORPS HITTING THE BELGRANO AND THEY ACTUALLY HEARD THE BREAKING-UP AND EVENTUAL SINKING OF THE WARSHIP.. NO NEED TO USE THE EXTRA 2 WIRE-GUIDED TORPS...
... THAT'S THE REAL STORY.