Title: What PMC vehicle was hit?
centurion - August 10, 2004 04:42 AM (GMT)
what PMC armored vehicle was hit during the assault against MI strongholds in 2000, was it a V300 ?
what hit the vehicle, was it RPG or recoilless rifle?
I have not found any account of it in PMC websites yet.
what hit the vehicle, was it RPG or recoilless rifle?
I have not found any account of it in PMC websites yet.
akrho - August 10, 2004 07:23 AM (GMT)
if i am not wrong a v300 hit in the side by rpg, everyone inside died
ex-intel - August 12, 2004 10:33 AM (GMT)
V300 with 90mm Belgian Cockerill turret.
panzergeneral - December 4, 2004 04:34 PM (GMT)
no, it was a Simba, armed with co-ax .50 cal and 7.62 MG and it was hit on the rear part killing all occupants inside.
gigumaku - June 5, 2008 08:04 AM (GMT)
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Yesseri! Korekek!
That was a Simba hit by an RPG.
I just forgot the exact URL of that article... I'll post it when I came across it again.
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Yesseri! Korekek!
That was a Simba hit by an RPG.
I just forgot the exact URL of that article... I'll post it when I came across it again.
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saver111 - June 5, 2008 10:26 AM (GMT)
This one...
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| There is one documented and acknowledged loss of a V300FSV as well as another unconfirmed loss during recent combat operations in the island of Jolo. The acknowledge casualty occurred during operations along the Narciso Ramos highway in 2001. The V300 had gotten past its supporting elements and had taken an RPG round in the rear which in turn detonated the stored ammunition. [RIP to the fallen, ed.] |
seWer Rat - June 5, 2008 11:29 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (gigumaku @ Jun 5 2008, 04:04 PM) |
| ---------- Yesseri! Korekek! That was a Simba hit by an RPG. I just forgot the exact URL of that article... I'll post it when I came across it again. ---------- |
It was a V300, the Marines dont operate the Simba.
City Hunter - June 5, 2008 12:52 PM (GMT)
Hmmm. Yun pala ang silbi ng mga armored skirts to deflect such type of damage. Hindi ba pwede maglagay ng ganun sa mga APCs natin?
gigumaku - June 6, 2008 02:49 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (seWer Rat @ Jun 5 2008, 07:29 PM) | ||
It was a V300, the Marines dont operate the Simba. |
Yeah, right. It was a V-300 pala.
Yep, I guess that's the pic I saw before (from saver111's post)... but that was a long time ago.
Sorry, if I wasn't able to recall it correctly.
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Anyway, I know that the PMC doesn't operate the Simba.
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adrian_yamato - June 14, 2008 02:04 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (City Hunter @ Jun 5 2008, 08:52 PM) |
| Hmmm. Yun pala ang silbi ng mga armored skirts to deflect such type of damage. Hindi ba pwede maglagay ng ganun sa mga APCs natin? |
E.R.A., as additional protection for this vehicles to prevent another loss at least.
sgtbilko - June 17, 2008 03:17 AM (GMT)
Cheapest RPG protection available w/ around 70% effectiveness
In Iraq, it is very effective. But i don't the effects it will have on the performance of the vehicle in operations w/ dense vegetation.
In Iraq, it is very effective. But i don't the effects it will have on the performance of the vehicle in operations w/ dense vegetation.
Kampilan - June 17, 2008 11:14 AM (GMT)
Some enterprising crew installed wood flitches on the sides of M113s supposedly to pre-explode RPGs. There was even a photo of that M113 somewhere here.
I wonder whether its effectiveness was proven in combat.
I wonder whether its effectiveness was proven in combat.
adrian_yamato - June 18, 2008 01:15 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (sgtbilko @ Jun 17 2008, 11:17 AM) |
| Cheapest RPG protection available w/ around 70% effectiveness In Iraq, it is very effective. But i don't the effects it will have on the performance of the vehicle in operations w/ dense vegetation. |
Correct sir :salute: ,I just forgot kung anong tawag diyan...
zundino - June 18, 2008 03:30 AM (GMT)
its simply called cage armor, others call it standoff armor
gen1 - June 19, 2008 10:26 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (sgtbilko @ Jun 17 2008, 11:17 AM) |
| Cheapest RPG protection available w/ around 70% effectiveness In Iraq, it is very effective. But i don't the effects it will have on the performance of the vehicle in operations w/ dense vegetation. |
I think the cheapest were the rolls of cyclone fences the installed as applique armor during the vietnam war. :armyLol:
gen1 - June 19, 2008 10:34 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Kampilan @ Jun 17 2008, 07:14 PM) |
| Some enterprising crew installed wood flitches on the sides of M113s supposedly to pre-explode RPGs. There was even a photo of that M113 somewhere here. I wonder whether its effectiveness was proven in combat. |
The idea was the wood flitches absorbs the impact of the RPG so much so the warhead fusing does not detonate. Sometimes lead was used for this purpose.
It is of course useless for projectile type anti-armor and also modifying the RPG fuses nullified this defense.
The slat armor in the pics posted by SB were a popular mod for the strykers.
sgtbilko - June 19, 2008 10:50 AM (GMT)
I heard of some instances that RPGs were caught inside large soft-skinned plastic water containers and did not detonate. But from other research. when RPG detonates, it easily passes through water, sand & ordinary ceramic.