Hello ;-)

I am new on the forum.

I am searching informations about the TOE of the PMC Marine infantry battalions (down to platoon/squad level).

Can you help me?

Hello,

What are the missions, doctrine and TOE of the Marine Battalion Landing Team = MBLT,
and of the MBLT (Special Operations Capable) = MBLT (SOC), and the difference between them?

Hello,

What are the TOE of the different companies (Light armor, Amphibious vehicules, Maintenance, HHQ) of the PMC Marine Armor Battalion?

You have too many questions here. :armygrin:

I got some questions for you, BTW.

Are you a soldier?

Are you really from France or just another Pinoy who likes anything that is French?

Why do you ask about our Marine's TOE?

If you are from the French military, ours shouldnt be this interesting to you. :armyroleyes:

Maybe French arms dealer :armywink:

To Filipzi

Yes I am French, civil servant in the french MoD (and former conscript f an armor regiment of AMX30B2).

One of my hobbies is to write about defense matters (I havr wrote an article about the Israeli defense forces).

I think that the APF are interesting because of their long experience of warfare.

On another hand, I am writing a study on amphibious operations ...andnumerous countries does not have the whole personnel and equipment of the USMC!
So the amphibious experience of other countries is interesting (but if you dont think that the Philipinos are it's your matter).

For your information, the french military have 4 LSD (2 Foudre class, 2 Orage class), they are capable of deploying only one amphibious battle group of 1400 men, with 12 AMX10RC light armored recce vehicles (with a 105mm gun) and 16 helicopters. This battle group can realize medium and low intensity operations (ship to shore and ship toobjective manoeuver) for a maximum of ten days in a zone of 100 km long x 50 km large.

Have I answered to your question?

It's good to have you here with us. :armycheers:

You sounded like you know much about military matters too.

You can help us a lot.

Hope to hear more from you, brother. :thumb:

Welcome Frenchman.
http://www.kawalpilipino.info/contrib/essa...eachlanding.htm

http://www.philippinemarinecorps.mil.ph/

http://www.navy.mil.ph/

http://www.philippinemarinecorps.mil.ph/pmcCSSBde.html

Welcome Frenchman.

The PMCs TOE is not a big secret. In fact, I have it here:

http://www.hueybravo.net/PhilippineMarines_Main.htm

If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

Welcome to the forum!

Hi Manoks, I believe frenchman is asking for the Table of Organization and Equipment. This is a list of: Organization as # of personnel per unit, designation, rank profile, position, and equipment as armor type, weapons down to laptops. This is though restricted information. Just a hint they are organized along USMC lineage with a little deviation.

Thanks MBLT, I wasnt going to get more specific than that anyways

Thanks for all your answers :specool:

Well, the acronym TOE (Table of Organization and Equipment) may be too accurate.

In a few words, I had seen the pages of the PMC official website and I want to know more on them.

So, my question is : what is the organisation of the different companies of the PMC armor battalion? A precise TOE is not required at all.

Nota : some links of the hueybravo.net website are inoperables :dunno:

Frenchman,

Manokski's orbat webpages aren't quite done with their transfer from a prior webhost. That is why there are dead links. Stick around for a bit, and the new website will be as fully-functional as the old one ever was.

:armycool:

Thanks :armysmile:

This site is very interesting and I'll visit it regularly.

When it comes to Philippine infantry troops, how are they organized at the squad and fire team level?

How are they arranged compared to this?

US Army squad

2 fire teams, 9 guys

1 SSGT as squad leader

each fire team: 1 buck SGT as team leader,1 SAW gunner, 1 M203 Gunner, 1 M4/m16 rifleman

USMC squad

3 fire teams, 13 guys

1 SGT or full Corporal as squad leader


each fire team: 1 Lance Corporal as team leader (w/ M203), 1 SAW gunner, 1 assistant gunner (with spare SAW ammo and an M16), 1 rifleman with an M16

(Ready-Team-Fire-Assist doctrine)

references: US Field Manuals FM-21-75 and FM 7-8

im a complete ----- about this but what is the difference between a lance corporal and a corporal?

In the US military, the rank of Lance Corporal in the USMC is the same grade as a US Army Private First class (E-3). But Lance Corporals have more responsibility than Army PFCs even if they are the same grade.

USMC enlisted ranks
http://www.military-quotes.com/ranks/marin...nk-insignia.htm

US Army enlisted ranks
http://www.military-quotes.com/ranks/army-rank-insignia.htm

Since the Marine Corps is a smaller service than the Army, they have to do with lower ranks commanding at lower levels. For example, a marine corporal would be placed in command of a squad that would be commanded by an Army "buck" sergeant (only three stripes, no knockers) or staff sergeant. A Lance Corporal is thus a lower rank or extra NCO rank that gives full Corporals more power; Lance Corporals command marine fire teams while Army "buck" sergeants command fire teams in Army squads.

I hope this answers your question. Now, how about in Filipino fire teams?

Hey guys! Can anyone describe or point to a link which shows how the PMC is organized, like maybe an organizational chart? I searched the PMC website but found none. Thank you. :aberet:

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Anyone?

Have you checked Manokski's site?

http://www.hueybravo.net/PhilippineMarines_Main.htm

On our ROTC Squad Tactics manual, an Army infantry rifle squad is composed of the following elements:

2 Riflemen
2 Team Leaders
2 Grenadiers
2 Automatic Weapons
1 Squad Leader

Divided into 2 teams, Alfa and Bravo. Riflemen and Team Leaders are armed with M16s, Squad Leader and Grenadiers with M16 and M203 attached, Automatic Weapons with M14s although some may have SAWs now.

I don't know how our PMC has their infantry squads set up.

Philippine Marine Corps

1st Marine Brigade
2nd Marine Brigade
3rd Marine Brigade
4th Marine Brigade (Reserve)

Combat & Service Support Brigade
-Assault Armor Battalion
-Motor Transport & Maintenance Battalion
-Force Reconnaissance Battalion
-Headquarters Battalion
-Artillery Battalion
-Service Support Battalion
Marine Security & Escort Brigade
Marine Corps Training Center

:salute:

question guys..

what comprise an MBLT?

are PMC formations (platoons, companies, etc) organized similiar to that of the PA's?

sir frenchman,

howdy! hows your work regarding the philippines marine corps? any news? can you share your military writings to us?

hoping for your favorable response.

regards.

he probaly has not yet finished his project due to lack of material :drunk:

I am just curious, as to why the Philippines Marines is being labeled as a "Corps" as far as I know Corps is composed of several Divisions, but if we scrutinize the composition of the PMC, we have the following:

- Headquarters and Headquarters Support
- 1st Marine Brigade
- 2nd Marine Brigade
- 3rd Marine Brigade
- 4th Marine Brigade (Reserve)
- Combat Service Support Brigade
- Other Support units.

Given this configuration, it seems that the PMC's structure is just same as a Division size organization, how come it's being called a "Corps"? Are there on going efforts to expand the Marines?

Hope you can enlighten me on this issue

ummm, they just named it after the US Marine Corps :drunk:

The term Corps can refer to an administrative grouping, e.g. Royal Armoured Corps, Intelligence Corps, Royal Logistics Corps, Royal Corps of Signals etc.

Actually I agree with your point, we even have Nursing Coprs, Dental Corps even Medical Corps, however, I'm quite confused when we are referring to formation of troops, platoon, company, batallion, brigade/regiment, division and corps.

Kasi, the way I see, the formation of the Marines is a division-size outfit, hindi kaya "Philippine Marine Division" ang dapat itawag for being politically correct. I know that I'm being to technical here but it's just my curiosity.

Hope you guys understand.

Like what Rapidfire said, I think they patterned it after the USMC hence the name.

It's not called the Philippine Marine Division because there's no intervening divisional headquarters, I don't think they've even thought about employing all three brigades together as a division. The term corps in this case refers to the administrative definition and not the tactical, just like the British "Corps of Royal Marines" which only has one brigade and the Dutch "Korps Mariniers" (Marine Corps) which has only four battalions.

At least that's what it looks like from my end, pwede ring tama yung sinasabi ni RapidFire :)

Might be worth noting that the USMC has been referred to as a Corps since 1798 and it only consisted of a battalion at that time. They first reached the size of multiple divisions at the end of WW1 but were then shrunk to two brigades during the inter-war years. In WW2 they grew to six divisions in two (field) corps, both of those under the United States Marine Corps.

Sir;

Thank you, now it begins to have more sense. My apologies, it's just my curiosity.

Thanks again

I assume this Corps administrative definition applies to the Royal Thai Marine Corps, as well as the ROC Marines (Taiwan) and the ROK Marine Corps(South Korea)?

I am not sure how large the Thai Marines are, but I've heard the ROC and ROK Marines are at least a division size each.

MSantor, most likely they're also using the term in the administrative sense.