Hey dudes, are there any other major bases of the PAF besides Villamor Air Base in Pasay City and Clark Air Base in Pampanga?

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Semper Fidelis et Paratus

Why don't you try using your search engine for a change, dude.

Basa Air Base, Pamapanga?
Fernando Air Base, Batangas?
Andrews AF Base, Zamboanga
Sangley/Atienza?, Cavite


Meron pa sa Panay Cebu.... Bakit ba? Wala namang eroplano na ang PAF na matino.

Kahit mag google ka dude, hindi pa rin nakabangit lahat.



:drunk: na lang tayo.

I just wanna get info from you guys. What's your problem?

http://www.scramble.nl/ph.htm

There.

Glad to be of help.

Here's another one. More comprehensive than Scramble's I might add.

http://www.hueybravo.net/Airforcepage/paf_bases_map.htm

Manokski,

Are you the guy in that famed website bearing that name?

No one else but him! :bow:

Good to have you here, Manokski! :thumb:

Correction. Wala pala sa Panay. Palawan nga pala. Bili ka nung magazine na binibenta ni manoksi sa site niya. Magandang reference yun.

PAF bases with satelite images!

http://www.scramble.nl/ph.htm

http://www.scramble.nl/ph.htm

counting forward operating bases, radar stations, command/control/communications/intelligence or information networks, ground-based defense including electronic warfare, and perimeter security.

gee-whiz fighters are pointless without radar to find targets and well-secured airbases to operate from. what philosophy to use: sprawling superbases or highly-mobile units dotting the countryside. how to maximize each peso invested.

how can a modern air force survive the greatest weapon any enemy can bring to bear: the element of surprise, aka the pre-emptive strike re the Six-Day War, the Nazi destruction of the air arm of the Red Army prior to the invasion of Stalin’s USSR, and Desert Storm.

the experience of Third World air forces in low-intensity conflicts re the “bush wars” of Africa, the insurgencies of LatAm, and the campaigns of the Thai AF against an assortment of rebel bands.

lessons from successes and failures. more later… :crawling:

PAF holds base defense drills

By Rudy Santos
The Philippine Star 04/28/2006

Philippine Air Force (PAF) personnel conducted exercises yesterday under the Camp Defense Plan for Villamor Air Base and adjacent critical facilities, including the Ninoy Aquino International Airport.

Airmen from various units were deployed to the main gate of the Air Force headquarters bringing with them their high powered firearms, including 60mm mortars and sniper rifles.

PAF spokesman Col. Restituto Padilla said the drills were necessary to keep a high state of readiness to defend Villamor Air Base, the headquarters of the PAF.

Exercises involved personnel designated as the Ready Reserve Group and includes units from the Air Force’s 520th Air Base Wing, the 720th Special Operations Group and Headquarters Service Support Group.

The drills includes combat maneuvers, battle formations and familiarization firing of weapons at the Philippine Army Adventure Camp in Fort Bonifacio.

Meanwhile, a twin engine aircraft with 12 passengers on board swerved to the grassy portion of the Manila Domestic Airport runway while rolling on the taxiway delta en route to the terminal due to a hydraulic problem with the steering.

No injuries were reported.

The Domier aircaft, piloted by Capt. Alberto Pamplona, was towed immediately from the grassy portion of the runway to prevent delays.

http://www.philstar.com/philstar/NEWS200604286308.htm

Base defense drills are really necessary to maintain a high state of readiness during emergencies.

BUT COME TO THINK OF IT, WHAT'S IN OUR AIR FORCE BASES THAT NEEDS MUCH PROTECTION ANYWAY?

No fighters..., no modern air assets or missile systems nor even radars or modern communication equipments. Baka sayang lang pera na nagastos sa mga drills n ayan? :dunno: What do these bases need to have?

Taman nga ang sniper rifles at mortars. Pero mukhang may kulang pa. Dapat may armored vehicles din like the Simba or M113. Dapat din mag sapat na firefighting equipments at vehicles. Mahalaga ang NVG at sniper riles lalo na sa mga base sa probinsya.

Our airforce may consist largely of Vietnam-war vintage helicopters, attack planes and transportsand a few more recent light attack helos and 4 do-it-all trainer jets.

However, airpower has given the AFP it's biggest edge against our insurgent and terrorist threats since they can rain prompt and effective firepower on call, an unparalleled view of the battlefield and the ability to bring men and materiel in and out of the most inaccessible terrain fast.

It follows that our airbases are imnportant links in the Logistics chain in the COIN campaign since this is where supplies and troops pass through to the frontlines and back.

What i would like to see 10 years from is that our air force bases will be equiped with modern radar its ieither permanent or mobile platform and air defense system.

We need more equipment for the PAF.

With the concern on the radars, i believe we should immediately build a radar in areas which have a considerable value for civilain and military use.

I am considering a joint-use here. The one in Lubang is a good platform. The military and civilians are using this.

I suggest we upgrade the radar in Ilocos Norte into a joint-use facility. NEDA may help us a lot by labelling this undertaking as economically beneficial.

We can also set up a similar facility covering the Mindanao area.

This should be our priority. The next phase is to put up secondary radar facilities across the country to cover strategic areas.

But these radars will be useless if we dont have a squadron of fighter-interceptors that will implement what the setting up of radars was for.

I suggest, after the two additional major joint-use facility have been set up, we should now get our first squadron of MRFs.

much better! :agree: for economic purpose radars should be dual use for both military and civilian. i also support that for base security we need armored vehicles and sniper teams with NVG capable like the RAF Regiment.

... but as per schedule of the AFP-PAF to have MRFs is on the year 2017 (i think); if we have any fighters at all, then for me AFP should install mobile SAMs/AA platformsfor protection of not only radars but the airbase itself (i wonder why the PAF would buy MRFs in 2017? i wonder why... we also need fighters, not just radars...)..

:agree:

We already have that in the PAF combat groups. Aside from upgrading their equipment, in my honest opinion, they should be downscaled and re-oriented for base defense and to supplement the 710th SpOW.

I consider it a waste of resources if they're just used to do jobs the Army, Marines and the PNP can do namely to do the actual shooting against insurgents. The money used to equip, feed, clothe and house large numbers of infantrymen in PAF BDA is better used to put more mothballed Hueys, Defenders, OV10s, SF260s or even S211s back into airworthiness or upgrade and buy new RADAR sets.

I CERTAINLY AGREE SIR TORA2 :agree: :salute:

The PAF's procurement plans gave allowance to give time for the COIN/CT threats to recede, the government to stabilize and for the economy to improve or at least FOREX reserves to grow.

If we want NEDA to get in to this undertakings one of the possible donor for financial aid is the Japanese Government thru JICA. Most of the NEDA's project has tied up or financed by the Japanese Government.

Not a bad idea also. Since Japan has a good electronic products.

not a bad idea sir jammerjamesky, actually JICA is also supporting or helping not just NEDA but also many private sectors as well, mostly electronics and semiconductor manufacturing industries (technically and monetarily). our company alone is being supported by JICA for more than 15 years now...

... just think, we will build and produce parts and equipment for our radar units (civilian and military) with the support of JICA thru NEDA or directly thru JICA itself. we have one production division in our company (may i not mention the name of the company i'm working, for security reasons) that manufactures radar parts for the US military. we have the capability here in the philippines, we only need the support of the gov't and private sector to help our military lalo na sa nangyayari sa mga equipment ng AFP now...

... when will they see this opportunity??

A good Anti Aircraft System is needed to protect whatever High Value asset that is inside the base from Air Strike.

Besides having A fix Ground radar installation to Air Base,
the radar of Anti -Aircraft that will be employ to protect any air Base will intesify the monitoring capabilites of our airspace. Peace to all.

We need this.... after 10 years.



to operate a well secured Air Base, besides having a Powerful fix ground installation radar.

An elite Security is also needed to guard within and outside the Air Base

Peace to all.

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sorry about my reaction... but what is there to protect? military assets? hahahaha

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why not?? if you have High Value assets inside the Air Base after 10 years. who knows?? Peace to all.

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The Generals' Golf Courses in the air bases. By the way, did you notice that new buildings have been built in many military bases? But for what purpose? Sayang lang ang mga ito, like the Airpower Intitute at Fernando Air Base. :fire:

Need to protect of course are run-ways, control centers, housing areas, etc. Protection from sabotage and destruction of remaining assets.

There were rebel strikes that resulted to loss of A/Cs both from the left and rightists groups.

We need those housing facilities inside the base. But it should be used exclusively by the officers not the "RETIRED OFFICERS".

Thats the current situation of our bases transcient housing facilities. This retired officers should turn it over to the proper authority after serving the AFP.

Navy Quarters in Fort Bonifacio for example has still a big problem in terms accomodation. Laki ng utang ng PN dahil sa mga huklubang officers na ayaw umalis sa mga quarters na occupied nila.at take note water and electrical bills shoulder pa rin ng PN up to now.

No Offense to any PAF guys here, but the higher authority should be adamant in demanding that those retired officers leave and find their own housing. Besides they're using up RP taxpayers' money since those retired officers' homes' utility bills are still being shouldered by the PAF. THEY SHOULD GROW SOME BALLS AND THROW THEM OUT! SIMPLE LANG!

Simple solution is not to release their retirement benefits if they will not turn-over gov't property as part of their clearances.

Perhaps, the DND should make use of profits from RSBS investments to develop a subdividion for retired officers and enlisteds. That way, they won't have to squat in space for active duty personnel.

Housing facilities for those in the service and since they have GSIS and PAG-IBIG contributions, get housing loans. And when they retired they have their own houses and can then turn-over those facilities they are using while in service. Just like any Filipino workers and citizens, both in gov't and private companies.

PAF receives replication funds from MCIA execs

MACTAN City - The Philippine Air Force (PAF) received relocation and replication funds for its facilities at the Mactan-Benito Ebuen Air Base, Lapu-lapu City (MBEAB) that were affected by the expansion of the Mactan-Cebu International Airport (MCIA). Retired Maj Gen Adelberto F. Yap, MCIA General Manager presented the check in the amount of P60 million last May 22 to PAF Chief Lt Gen Jose L. Reyes at his office athe Villamor Air Base. The repllication of PAF facilities at the MBEAB is provided for by the Memorandum of Agreement (MoA) between the Department of National Defense (DND) and the PAF and Department of Transportation and Communication-Mactan Cebu International Airport Authority (DOTC-MCIAA) last February 14, 2006. Several PAF facilities covered by the expansion of MCIA will be relocated in re-designated PAF areas within the MBEAB.

Manila Bulletin
Visayas Bulletin
25 May 2006

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Hope the PAF plans well as how to allocate those limited funds.

Opening of Fernando Air Base for civilian use ordered


President Arroyo has ordered the opening of Fernando Air Base in Lipa City, Batangas, for joint military and civilian use, according to Philippine Economic Zone Authority Director General Lilia B. de Lima.

De Lima made the disclosure at a recent hearing of the House Committee on Government Enterprises and Privatization, chaired by Congressman Eladio Jala.

De Lima said the President has anticipated the traffic problem that the coming South Luzon Expressway repair will bring about.

"Thousands of container vans from the industrial locators in the region will be affected by the Alabang viaduct repair in the SLEX. She, therefore, asked Trade and Industry Secretary Peter B. Favila and National Defense Secretary Avelino Cruz to facilitate immediately the requirements for the MOA signing with the PAF for the civilian use of the air base facility at night when not in use by the military," de Lima said.

The President’s directive dovetails with House Bill 5469, introduced by Rep. Hermilando I. Mandanas of Batangas for the redevelopment of Fernando Air base for joint civilian-military use, at no expense to the government. The bill calls for the creation of the Calabarzon International Airport Corp. and a free-trade zone in the adjoining areas.

"The objective is to convert the air base into a dual-use airport serving the Southern Tagalog Region, and functioning as subsidiary airport to the Ninoy Aquino International Airport, and to develop the area contiguous to base into a dynamic zone through private-sector initiative," Mandanas said.

He said the PAF will be a direct beneficiary of the redevelopment. "The present area used by PAF will not be diminished by even one square meter," Mandanas said.

He said that Southern Tagalog needs to enhance its transportation network, including air transportation. This underscores the need for developing an airport to service the region and decongest NAIA.

De Lima expressed her support for the bill, which she said will make the companies in the region more efficient by reducing turn-around time by four to six hours. She also believes that a free-trade zone will accelerate economic development in Calabarzon (Cavite, Laguna, Batangas, Rizal and Quezon) and will create more jobs.

Representative Jala organized a technical working group, headed by Mandanas, to fasttrack approval of the bill.

Representatives from the PAF, PEZA, Office of the Government Corporate Counsel, the Department of Transportation and Communication, Air Transportation Office, Civil Aeronautic Board, Manila International Airport Authority, National Economic and Development Authority and the Department of Finance will be invited as members of the working group.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryId=41207

Looks like VAB is conducting its base security exercise today. Its off-limits and seen a truckload of NAVSOG at the gate.

Apparently it's part of a widescale dry-run among bases in the Metro Manila like The Fort, PN HQ, and yes, AFP GHQ. Similar drills are also taking place in other installations in NCR especially with that massive prayer rally this Sunday.

With Civil Society. Religious groups, the Legit Opposition (Erap's camp) and the Semi-Legit Opposition (groups with alleged Left Leanings like BAYAN) back in action after that attempted Blitzkrieg by de Venecia to impose changes on the Constitution by Constituent Assembly or forcing the Senate to call for a Con Con, The Palace fears things could eventually escalate to an EDSA 4 or worse, another Coup which is why they are quick to test the defenses of their major bases here in the NCR which are likely targets for take-over.



I wonder though, if there similar drills in Camp O`Donnell (where the Light Armored Div is based) and Atienza (where bulk of the Nation's airpower, the 15th Strike Wing roosts) since they have assets that could prove useful in a coup.

It seems that the generals won't be biting to the Bishops' invite to attend. It's either thay are playing the Military Professionalism card or they fear reprisals for going against the leadership.

Apparently, the Generals would have a lot to lose in a regime change where GMA would be booted out. However, we would have to say what the Junior Officers would have to say.

Air Force bases in the country



The govt's goal in eliminating rebellion can't be realized without the improving the air support that our ground troops can rely upon. The augmention of our air assets require us to provide a strategic base for these as well.

With these, i suggest we consider these:

1) Setting up of a new air base in Butuan to protect Northern and Western Mindanao. Agusan and Compostella Valley are areas where the rebels, both MILF/MNLF/ASG and the NPA, are concentrated.

The base should at least house 6 MD520s and 2 Cobras. Plus a set of fixed-wing attack aircraft like the Bronco and the SF260. 8 Hueys are needed for troop transport. APCs and tanks are needed for base security.

2) We also need to set up a new base in Naga to provide the air support for our troops there. The same number of attack choppers and Hueys are needed for thsi base.

3) We also need to upgrade our base in Cauayan. The same number of attack choppers and Hueys as with Butuan are needed here.

4) We also need to either setup a new air base in Ilocos Norte. The same number of attach choppers and Hueys are needed there.

Summary: This is a very meager allocation. This may not be enough.

1) Ilocos Norte: (upgrade or new base)
- squadron of MRFs
- 4 MD520 Defenders
- 2 Cobras (Sidewinder & Hellfire missile firing variants)
- 8 Hueys
- 2 SAR choppers (manned by well-trained men from 505th SARG)

2) Cauayan: (upgrade)
- 4 MD520 Defenders
- 2 Cobras
- 8 Hueys
- 2 SAR choppers (manned by well-trained men from 505th SARG)

3) Basa
- squadron of MRFs
- 6 OV10 Broncos
- 6 AS211
- 6 SF260 (attack variants)

4) Clark
- 2 Maritime patrol aircrafts
- 3 heavy lift transport aircraft
- 4 medium lift transport aircraft
- 8 Hueys

5) Villamor
- 2 Cobras (Sidewinder & Hellfire missile firing variants)
- 4 Hueys
- presidential airlift wing assets
- 2 SAR

6) Atienza
- Naval Air Group assets

7) Fernando
- squadron of MRFs
- training wing assets
- 4 MD520 Defenders
- 8 Hueys

8) Naga (new base)
- 4 MD520 Defenders
- 2 Cobras
- 8 Hueys
- 2 SAR choppers (manned by well-trained men from 505th SARG)
- 2 Maritime patrol aircrafts

9) Roxas City (new base)
- 4 MD520 Defenders
- 8 Hueys
- 2 SAR choppers (manned by well-trained men from 505th SARG)

10) Cebu
- squadron of MRFs
- 2 Cobras
- 4 Hueys
- 2 SAR choppers (manned by well-trained men from 505th SARG)

10) Tacloban
- 4 MD520
- 8 Hueys

11) Palawan
- squadron of MRFs
- 4 Cobras (Sidewinder & Hellfire missile firing variants)
- 6 Hueys
- 2 SAR choppers (manned by well-trained men from 505th SARG)
- 2 Maritime patrol aircrafts

12) Butuan (new base)
- squadron of MRFs
- 2 Cobras
- 4 MD520
- 8 Hueys
- 2 SAR choppers (manned by well-trained men from 505th SARG)
- 3 heavy lift transport aircraft
- 4 medium lift transport aircraft

13) Raja Buayan
- squadron of MRFs
- 2 Cobras
- 4 MD520
- 8 Hueys
- 2 SAR choppers (manned by well-trained men from 505th SARG)
- 2 Maritime patrol aircrafts

14) Edwin Adrews
- squadron of MRFs
- 2 Cobras (Sidewinder & Hellfire missile firing variants)
- 4 MD520
- 8 Hueys
- 2 SAR choppers (manned by well-trained men from 505th SARG)

TOTAL NUMBER OF ASSETS:

MRF / Strike-Fighter Aircraft = 48
Cobra attack helicopter = 20
MD520 scout/attack chopper = 36
Huey transport = 90
SAR choppers = 20
Maritime Patrol = 8
heavy lift transport aircraft = 6
medium lift transport aircraft = 8


BASE DEFENSE:

- tanks
- APCs with machineguns
- sniper rifles with NV scopes
- NVG

Flipzi have you noticed the bases alignment in our country? Try to examine bases installation in the country. Particularly in Mindanao, isnt Luzon is already to much crowded in the base presence of the PAF. Are they in need to expand their base or implement a re-alignment program for bases.

Mindanao in particular, right? Take note the presence of Reds in the Region 10 and Region 13 isnt it obvious that the year 2006 blogs the insurgency problems in this area? More reported cases of encounter and Neps bunker in the said Areas.right?

If we can start a new base in the area of Butuan or Surigao area. This will lessen the time of troop insertion problems in which more often in the news are in need of an air asset to find their objectives. Most of the cases in this area also were most of the Reds escaped because of the unavailability of an air asset to assist their operations. Am i right sir? This are what the news of 2006 indicated mostly.