With the environmental nightmare we are facing the cost of acquiring these vessels is small compared to the loss we are facing if this disaster is prolonged.

3 units selling at USD49,500 each. Might be lower if bought en bloc (all 3 units).





SIZE: 27'
YEAR AND BUILD: xx
MATERIAL: Aluminum
LENGTH: 27'
BEAM: 10'
DRAFT: 3'
DISPLACEMENT: (DWT): xx (LTD): 6.5 tons empty
DESIGNER: US Navy
CLASSIFICATION: Self propelled oil and debris recovery
MAIN ENGINE(S): Single 353 GM Diesel
LOCATION: West Coast US
ASKING PRICE: $49,500 each
STATUS: Active
COMMENTS: 3 sistership oilskimmers
NOTES:

3x sisterships
1500 gallons recovered oil storage
100 GPM recovery rate
Collection speed 3 knots max.
6.5 long tons dry weight.

90% oil recovered single pass @ 1-2 knots with less than 1% water in the recovered oil.

http://shipexpo.com/sales/vessel_detail.asp?FileNo=2277

How about also more fixed and rotary wing aircraft for SAR and maritime surveillance purposes. This too is vital for the PCG. :thumb:

DISPERSANTS

They are running out of it.

Tsuneishi Cebu has donated 500 gallons of their own stock to the PCG. :thumb:

Something I found in the net. A NOT NOW requirement unlike those oil spill equipments but would be very much needed in a typhoon prone country like ours especially along the Batanes area.







http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/U-S-Coast-G...1QQcmdZViewItem

And this is how it looks in action. It's an Ex-U.S Coast Guard 1993 47ft "Motor Life Boat" (MLB)

General Characteristics
Displacement: 40,000 lb (18,000 kg)
Length: 47 ft 11 in (15 m)
Beam: 14 ft (4.3 m)
Draft: 4 ft 6 in (1.4 m)
Hull: 5456 marine aluminium
Propulsion: Two 435 hp (324 kW) Detroit Diesel engines
Speed: 25 knots (46 km/h) max; 22 knots (41 km/h) cruise
Range: 200 nautical miles (370 km) cruise
Righting capability: Rollover in under 10 seconds
Complement: 4 crew, 5 passengers

http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-o/nmlbs/mlb_info.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_life_boat

Asking USD 410,000.00. At Php45 = USD1, about Php18++ Million. Calling pork barrel holders.

Lakas nya noh .. :bow: OO kailangan natin ganito pero sa ngayon ... pwede. Sana kaya gawin dito para mas mura ... :thumb:

Yeah. Start small just to prove we could do those types of things. This could be issued to the PCG, PNP-MG, DA-BFAR, DENR and even the PN for their brown water operations.

With the Peso pegging at P50 = USD1 maybe the PCG can get this:



1994 Bell 412EP Selling at USD60,000 at e-bay.

Bell412EP

Hmmm... Php3,000,000. Any PCGA philantropist out there? This one is a nice SAR project.

Man, that was fast. Somebody just bought it at the USD60,000 Buy It Now price tag before I could even download the specs. Now it's delisted.

Do you see the dome in front?

With our gov't short of cash, they should be quick to get bargains such as this. Yesterday there was an Agusta A-109 being bidded at USD30,000++.

Will this do instead? It's back, Reserve not met. (Bid should be above the other nights' USD30,000)



Agusta A109

S/N 11057, 623 TT, 2374 Ldgs, ESP Program, Single Pilot IFR, Avidyne Navigator Display, Skywatch, Dual Garmin 530’s, AA300 Radar Altimeter, AFCS 3 Axis Duplex Autopilot Systems, , New Composite Tail Rotor, New Paint, New Interior, SAT Phone System, IPOD Connection, “VIP Interior”, Cellular Phone System, Refreshment Console, Air Conditioning, Range Two Hours

Agusta A109 Power

Nice to have it like this



HITRON Motto: Force From Above

Getting big tickets from ebay?

Hmmm...

not a bad idea. :thumb:

The PNP and Coast Guard can benefit from this a lot.

To face the current tasks and beyond.. they should be equipped to take over the littoral patrols from the Navy.

THEY NEED THESE:






Check this out;

Illegal fishers resist arrest in Madridejos

The Freeman 02/15/2007

Fishermen who were caught illegally fishing in the seawaters off Madridejos town put up a fight against the pursuing authorities after they fired upon the local Bantay Dagat members who tried to arrest them.

The incident happened about 1 a.m. Tuesday near the Tanguinge Island in Madridejos.

At least seven Bantay Dagat members, escorted by PO1 Antonio Rayco, apprehended light boat F/B Stephanie for fishing within the municipal seawaters and using super light in violation of Section 93 of Republic Act 8550.

A device used for attracting fishes, super light is a banned fishing tool since it can cause negative impact to the fish, said Lou Arciaga, regional information officer of the Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources.

She said commercial fishing boats are not allowed within 15 kilometers of the municipal seawater to avoid over fishing and exploitation of fishery resources.

Reports said Daking Escala, the captain and master fisherman of F/B Saint Peter, the mother boat of F/B Stephanie, blocked the pursuing operatives of the Bantay Dagat.

With two of his armed crews as escorts, Escala reportedly told the approaching Bantay Dagat members that they would resist any arrest. "Kung pugson ninyo pagdala ang among light boat magpinusilay ta ani."

PO2 Danny Alburo, of the Madridejos Police Station, yesterday told The Freeman that Bantay Dagat members Vicente Maru and Alberto Tonelete, who already boarded Escala's boat, promptly jumped into the sea upon seeing Escala and his crew armed with three M16 A1 riffles and two .45 caliber pistols.

Alburo said the Bantay Dagat members told them that they also saw three 60-caliber machine guns and 10 hand grenades inside the fishing boat.

The policeman added that they sent three police personnel to reinforce the Bantay Dagat members but the illegal fishermen already left the area.

"Manukol g'yud ni sila, di padakop mga armado gud n'ya mga Ilonggo man kuno og sinulti-an", said Alburo. - Norvie S. Misa

http://philstar.com/philstar/Freeman200702151801.htm

Some are on the way, for the PN

http://pdff.sytes.net/index.php?showtopic=1634&st=30&#last

how about this


not that the small one.





disguised as a fishing boat, it is for reconnaissance, patrol and espionage. it is cheap to build and deploy.
it can get a video of anyone as evidence before calling in a real coast guard or navy ship. it can be equipped with gps, video, scope and night vision. and has a hidden .50 caliber machine gun that can be deployed in front if needs arises.

More patrol ships or Coast Guard Cutters and all-weather choppers like the Chineze Daughpin.

Our country is a magnet for typhoons.

Sea mishaps and rescue missions will forever bother us.

THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD DO ITS BEST IN PROTECTING HUMAN LIFE AND PROPERTY.

The Chinese are now offering the same chopper below at a lower price. Let's get it.



As for the ships, this is the type we need. The Island-class or the Cyclone class ships.


WPB 110' Island Class
The United States Coast Guard possesses forty-nine 110’ ISLAND Class patrol boats. The ISLAND Class’ missions are to provide offshore surveillance, law enforcement, and perform search-and-rescue (SAR) operations. As such, the patrol boats were designed to have a 5-day endurance and a 3-ton payload margin.

Actually we already have one Cyclone-class ship but it is serving the Navy.

These boats have ramps at the stern for fast deployemtn of Rigid Hull Inflatable Boats or RHIB. These system is perfect for conducting anti-piracy and anti-terrorism.

The Philippines can ink a joint-development with the US makers so that we can build them in Cebu or Subic.

Around, 2 to 3 of these per every Coast Guard district is ok.

As for the wider patrol roles, at least 3 or 5 of this bigger ship is needed;


270-Foot Medium Endurance Cutter (WMEC)
There are 13 Famous-class cutters currently in commission; the first one, Bear (WMEC 901), entered service in 1983. During a typical 50 day patrol, they are capable of performing a variety of the Coast Guard's missions. Famous-class cutters are primarily assigned law enforcement, defense operations, and search-and-rescue missions. Their law enforcement missions have included drug and illegal immigrant operations and fisheries enforcement activities. These ships are the most modern and advanced medium endurance cutters, with a modern weapons and sensor suite. They are equipped with a sophisticated command, display, and control (COMDAC) computerized ship-control system which provides for maximum operational effectiveness with reduced crews. The crew consists of 14 officers and 86 enlisted persons.

kopinux got something going there,and i agree with him/her.. we should use what works for us!
if we put maybe a nav radar on it and electro-optics to record what happened then we are there!!!!

We have to consider the needs of the troops and the weapons and equipments they carry.

Can they effectively mount a .50 caliber gun on a wooden narrow fishing boat?

The benefit of using such boat just to disguise is not enough to outweigh the benefits of using the metal and fully-equipped boats.

Gentlemen,
In many ways the PCG is much better equiped than the PN. Their ships are almost all new.

This link gives an update on current PCG fleet which is still being improved. Currently plans are to expand this depending on personnel.

http://cgof.org/hcgof/index.php?option=com...id=43&Itemid=32



Here's a sample of the 56 and 35 meter boats from tenix. We have 4 each of these vessels. We have an option of 10 more of these boats .

Old article on the above ships below.

THE Philippine Coast Guard (PCG) has commissioned two new additional search and rescue (SAR) vessels to further improve its mandate of safer seas and modernize its fleet. The new SARs vessels – BRP Batangas and BRP Nueva Vizcaya – are the latest addition to the PCG fleet. They were formally handed over by Department of Transportation and Communication Secretary Leandro Mendoza last August 28 after acquiring it from the Tenix’s specialist shipbuilding facility in Fremantle, Western Australia.

BRP Nueva Vizcaya is the second 35m rescue vessel delivered to the PCG this year while the BRP Batangas is the fourth 56m rescue vessel delivered since 2000.

The two modern vessels are designed for brisk and timely response in the event of maritime emergencies and are equipped with high-tech apparatus for rapid survivors’ recovery and rescue operations coordination. Both the BRP Batangas and BRP Nueva Vizcaya are capable of dealing with environmental disasters using on board pollution control and fire fighting equipment.

Although designed for full steam at a maximum speed for 24 knots, these carriers maintain sea level equilibrium even at low speed operations to circumnavigate target areas for effective reconnaissance and survivor recovery.

While the said ships are primarily designed for search and rescue missions, they will also be used to perform marine environmental protection, maritime law enforcement and maritime operations missions. The vessels will be deployed to Southern Philippines to augment PCG’s floating assets and to assist other government agencies to enforce maritime laws in the area.

SHIPS’ PARTICULARS

BRP Batangas (SAR-004)

Main Characteristics
Length (over all) 56.0 meters
Speed 24 knots
Length (hull) 55.3 meters
Length (waterline) 51.0 meters
Beam 10.55 meters
Displacement 500 tons
Accommodation 38
Gross tonnage 860 tons
Propulsion Two Caterpillar
Diesel Engines
4621 Driving Two
CPP Propellers

Search and Rescue Facilities
6.5 flat Rigid Inflatable Boat (RIB) that is launched
from the transom ramp
4 RIB8 launched by crane
Helicopter deck if weights up to 4,675kg
Survivor rescue area
Medical Facility
Decompression chamber
Pollution control equipment
Firefighting capability
Built by Tenix Defence Pty. Ltd. Australia

BRP Nueva Vizcaya (AU-3502)

Main Characteristics
Length (over all) 36.2meters
Speed 21 knots
Length (hull) 33.7 meters
Length (waterline) 30.9 meters
Beam 7.3 meters
Displacement 115 tons
Accommodation 20
Gross tonnage 208 tons
Range (at 21 knots) 200 NM
Range (at 12 knots) 800 NM

Propulsion:
2x3508 Caterpillar engines rated 1044kWat 1800 rpm
2x3304 Caterpillar engines rated 64ekWat 60Hz

Two Caterpillar Diesel Engines:
4621 Driving Two CPP Propellers

LIFE SAVING EQUIPMENT:
SOLAS Liferaft 2x 16 persons
Rescue boat 1x4.5 rigid inflatable boat

Satellite communication:
GMDSS carriage Furuno F8 system


Aside from the Tenix boats there are 10 new 30 meter boats from Spain and A lighthouse tender from Japan. Puro bago.[B]

How about considering such air assets?

Not just considering but implementing the concept?

Something that our limited PCG Choppers should have



FLIR / INFRAMETRICS MK-III INFRARED THERMAL IMAGING SYSTEM CAMERA AND ACCESSORIES.

Selling at E-bay for USD17,500 for 1 unit + 1 non-functioning (for spares)

is that part of the stolen US military equipment sold on ebay?

The U.S. military is not the only ones using such type of equipment. Law Enforcers, Coast Guards, Border Patrols, Environmentalist etc. all over the world uses it. I think the one posted was bought from a Police agency outside the U.S.

RP has technology vs sea disasters but it's ‘non-operational’ - PCG
GMANews.TV
GMANews.TV - Thursday, June 26

MANILA, Philippines – Maritime tragedies like what befell the MV Princess of the Stars could have been avoided if only the Philippine Coast Guard was able to use a technology that allows its personnel to quickly detect distress signals.

Coast Guard commandant Vice Admiral Wilfredo Tamayo, however, said in a radio interview that while the Philippines has such a technology, it was "non-operational" and "outdated."

Tamayo said that the government as early as 1999 undertook a project that allowed for the installment of a Global Maritime Distress Safety System (GMDSS) in at least 19 Coast Guard stations.

"Supposedly na-install na ito sa 19 stations namin. Pero hanggang ngayon ay hindi pa rin operational (Supposedly, the technology has been installed in our 19 stations. But until now they are not yet operational)," Tamayo said.

"Kami ay nalulungkot na hindi na-realize ang project na ito at ako ay nagtataka rin kung ano ang naging problema (We are saddened that this project has not been fully realized. We are also wondering what went wrong)," he added.

The GMDSS is a maritime communication system composed of specific equipment and a set of standard maritime procedures and protocols, used to increase safety in sea travel and effectively conduct rescue operation at sea.

Outdated

But even if the nine-year-old equipment was working, it was unlikely that it would operate effectively since technologies in the Maritime industry become easily outdated, Tamayo said.

"Alam mo naman ang teknolohiya sa maritime community, madaling maging outdated… Siguro dahil lumipas na ang walo o siyam na taon, talagang maa-outdate na siya ng ibang teknolohiya (Technology in the maritime industry becomes easily outdated. And what we have is already eight to nine years old)," he said.

Tamayo also said in the interview that he does not know which company won the bid for the project, since it was undertaken by the Department of Transportation and Communication (DOTC).

"Hindi ko lang alam kung ito ay bayad na o may kulang pang bayaran (I am not even sure whether or not the project has already been fully paid)," he said.

If ever payment is still due its contractors, Tamayo said they could not do anything to revive the project and power up the technology.

"Ang control kasi, hindi sa amin ang procurement nito. Kami ay end-users lang (We don't have control of the situation. We do not procure the budget for this. We are merely end-users)," Tamayo said.

The Coast Guard vice admiral added that the DOTC could have consulted and coordinated with the Coast Guard since the latter, after all, is the "end-user" of the technology.

"Hindi siguro (nag-consult dati) kasi hanggang ngayon hindi tumatakbo eh (I think the DOTC did not consult Coast Guard officials then, because until now the system is not running)," Tamayo said.

With ship but no communication

Tamayo said he remains hopeful that the GMDSS would soon be up and running, adding that the technology could greatly avert maritime disasters.

"Mababawasan ang maritime incidents kasi may panahon pa upang ang Coast Guard natin ay makatugon sa isang barkong nangangailangan ng tulong dahil ito ay makakapagbigay ng signal (Maritime incidents would be lessened since the Coast Guard can immediately act on any sea vessel experiencing trouble during voyage)," he said.

He also said that such a system, pegged to have cost the government some P1.2 billion, would also allow for a faster response from the Coast Guard during emergencies.

"Unfortunately, mayroon kaming barko pero kulang kami sa communication para maging effective kami sa response namin sa mga maritime incidents (We have ships that can be used for rescue operations, but we also need communication so that we can respond to maritime incidents more effectively)," he said. - GMANews.TV

http://ph.news.yahoo.com/gma/20080625/tph-...-b-d6cd5cf.html

Non-operational and updated :headbang:

I wonder how the PCG enforces the rules on foreign vessels calling our ports without such equipments onboards when in fact they claim our own PCG vessels are not equipped.

P1.2 Billion for something that wasn't used? Something fishy about this one. :armyfrown:

friggin baztrds :headbang: now this came out in the open AFTER the Princess tragedy!

not just the 1.2billion pesos wasted but the priceless 800 lives that could have been saved by this GMDSS ..

PCG ships are modern; but they need some shore based communications for this ships to immidiately deploy to the scenes, merom nga tayong modernong barko sa PCG, yung communications equipment naman ang problema:

for me, Hindi yung PCG ang problema: yung contractor dahil baka gusto nyang humirit ng malaki: and that's fishy to me...

More like it.

Or since it was done during FVR's term, when Erap stepped in and a new DOTC team was put in place, the project got sidesweeped.

This is bad because instead of doing their responsibility in ensuring a worthwhile project's completion, though initiated by the former administration, they neglected it and didn't bother supporting the project enough.

So, we can say that they deliberately wasted the 1.2 billion peso-project since it was not theirs anyway.

It was not their loss but the nation's and its taxpayers'.

BTW, fellows, please direct your responses to this thread below instead.

Preventing SEA DISASTERS, measures and preparations

The issue is broad and will include other offices of the govt like Marina, DOTC, PNP and the LGU, that's why I made a separate thread. Thanks.

I was about to post this at the Other Hobbies thread but I think this is something our PCG needed. Any PCGA philanthropist out there?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Vehic...p3756.m14.l1318

Bid starts at US$61,635.00

The most needed in PCG?

Able planners and managers to get the Coast Guard into a dependable and efficient status.

We have lots of them both within and outside the PCG. What we need are people that knows how to prioritize things and not those grandstanding whenever a calamity or disaster strikes.

add to these maggots those who simply point their finget at someone else, and too scared to accept their fault.

MARINA, the COAST GUARD, PAG-ASA were all pointing their fingers on the ship captain.

Look here, fellows.

Why are there goverment agencies anyway?

Their RESPONSIBILITY is to ensure the implemention of the neeeded facilities and procedurs and to ensure that ship crew and owners adhere to the rules.

PAG-ASA is a well budgetted agency as well as the CG and MARINA. But why is PAG-ASA not sending updates to the CG hourly when they have satellite images shown in realk-time already?

The CG is well-funded. In fact it had been allocated funds for the nationwide maritime monitoring system. But the project remained inoperational. It didnt have a good ship-ship communication system as per CG itself.

I was reading all the angles when I finally realize that in all, it's the GOVERNMENT's FAULT because despite the MV Dona Paz and the reat, the Coast Guard, MARINA and PAG-ASA have not done much to ensure that the tragedy wont be repeated.

The CG dont have search planes. They dont have rescue ships that can run through rough seas. They dont have a reliable communication system. They dont have a monitoring system.

ALL ARE TOO COMPLACENT OF THE CURRENT SETUP AND SYSTEM.

Then when something goes wrong they simply point the blame on each other.

I'd say the CG needs able planners and managers because the planners will conceptualize systems and projects aimed at improving service.

The managers will then ensure that these projects are completed.

With the botched nationwide maritime monitoring system project, the CG/DOTC then "had" able planners but they forgot to install an able manager to put the project to work.

Going back to my first post, found this,





Selling at US $16,200.00

The Philippine Coast Guard immediately needs now is the latest and most advance Electronic Communication and GPS Satelite systems, more of the latest rescue equipments, the latest combat equipments to be able combat pirates and foreign Terrorist!.. :ssalute: :patrioticpinoy: