Title: Infantry Divisions
Judd - October 7, 2006 09:49 AM (GMT)
how many infantry divisions does the PA have at present? some sources on the net say there are 9 divisions in all, but i've read more than twice on the newspaper about a 'newly-formed 10th infantry division' currently operating in mindanao. is this true?
jedi knight - October 9, 2006 12:50 AM (GMT)
yes, it's true, there are now 10 light infantry divisions in the Philippine Army
CAPT DE ORO - November 1, 2006 12:31 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (jedi knight @ Oct 9 2006, 08:50 AM) |
| yes, it's true, there are now 10 light infantry divisions in the Philippine Army |
for info. the newly activated 10th Infantry Division last August 2006 is located in Camp Panacan, Davao City. :patrioticpinoy:
adroth - November 6, 2006 02:46 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (jedi knight @ Oct 8 2006, 04:50 PM) |
| yes, it's true, there are now 10 light infantry divisions in the Philippine Army |
Differentiate "light" from "heavy" infantry. What would you call "medium"?
kyle_katarno - November 9, 2006 11:54 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (adroth @ Nov 6 2006, 10:46 AM) |
| QUOTE (jedi knight @ Oct 8 2006, 04:50 PM) | | yes, it's true, there are now 10 light infantry divisions in the Philippine Army |
Differentiate "light" from "heavy" infantry. What would you call "medium"?
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"light" means poorly armed, underpaid and un-appreciated i think?
Judd - November 11, 2006 07:41 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (adroth @ Nov 6 2006, 10:46 AM) |
| QUOTE (jedi knight @ Oct 8 2006, 04:50 PM) | | yes, it's true, there are now 10 light infantry divisions in the Philippine Army |
Differentiate "light" from "heavy" infantry. What would you call "medium"?
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i think there are no such things as 'heavy' and 'medium' infantry.. for all i know, there are three types of infantry: light, airborne, air assault, and mechanized.
- The light infantry division is the most rapidly and strategically deployable of the various types of infantry divisions. It is organized to fight as part of a larger force or a joint task force in conventional conflicts, or independently in operations other than war.
- The air assault division combines strategic mobility with an extremely high degree of tactical mobility within its area of operations. The air assault division conducts combat operations with infantry, aviation, and the necessary combat support and combat service and support to strike overextended distances and terrain obstacles to attack the enemy - deep, fast, and often.
- airborne divisions are those deployed by parachutes, hence they are lightly equipped. they are easily deployed however and can be dropped behind enemy lines to disrupt its supply lines and route of reinforcements.
- mechanized infantry divisions employ various vehicles (APCs, light tanks) both for mobility and for closing in on the enemy with overwhelming direct-fire support.
jedi knight - November 13, 2006 03:58 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Judd @ Nov 11 2006, 03:41 PM) |
| QUOTE (adroth @ Nov 6 2006, 10:46 AM) | | QUOTE (jedi knight @ Oct 8 2006, 04:50 PM) | | yes, it's true, there are now 10 light infantry divisions in the Philippine Army |
Differentiate "light" from "heavy" infantry. What would you call "medium"?
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i think there are no such things as 'heavy' and 'medium' infantry.. for all i know, there are three types of infantry: light, airborne, air assault, and mechanized.
- The light infantry division is the most rapidly and strategically deployable of the various types of infantry divisions. It is organized to fight as part of a larger force or a joint task force in conventional conflicts, or independently in operations other than war.
- The air assault division combines strategic mobility with an extremely high degree of tactical mobility within its area of operations. The air assault division conducts combat operations with infantry, aviation, and the necessary combat support and combat service and support to strike overextended distances and terrain obstacles to attack the enemy - deep, fast, and often.
- airborne divisions are those deployed by parachutes, hence they are lightly equipped. they are easily deployed however and can be dropped behind enemy lines to disrupt its supply lines and route of reinforcements.
- mechanized infantry divisions employ various vehicles (APCs, light tanks) both for mobility and for closing in on the enemy with overwhelming direct-fire support.
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armor division - composed of main battle tanks
adroth - November 13, 2006 04:45 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Judd @ Oct 7 2006, 01:49 AM) |
| how many infantry divisions does the PA have at present? |
Here's one way to keep track of the divisions
http://adroth.ph/sites/startracker/views/army_view.phpIts still in Beta so some of the background info about the units is still missing. But the list is current.
jedi knight - November 15, 2006 02:54 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (adroth @ Nov 13 2006, 12:45 PM) |
| QUOTE (Judd @ Oct 7 2006, 01:49 AM) | | how many infantry divisions does the PA have at present? |
Here's one way to keep track of the divisions http://adroth.ph/sites/startracker/views/army_view.phpIts still in Beta so some of the background info about the units is still missing. But the list is current. |
hi adroth;
the SFRA under Col. Art Ortiz is not included in the SOCOM units.
adroth - November 15, 2006 05:13 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (jedi knight @ Nov 14 2006, 06:54 PM) |
| QUOTE (adroth @ Nov 13 2006, 12:45 PM) | | QUOTE (Judd @ Oct 7 2006, 01:49 AM) | | how many infantry divisions does the PA have at present? |
Here's one way to keep track of the divisions http://adroth.ph/sites/startracker/views/army_view.phpIts still in Beta so some of the background info about the units is still missing. But the list is current. |
hi adroth;
the SFRA under Col. Art Ortiz is not included in the SOCOM units.
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Thanks for the heads up Jedi.
SFRA = Special Forces Regiment (Airborne), right?
jedi knight - November 17, 2006 02:21 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (adroth @ Nov 15 2006, 01:13 PM) |
| QUOTE (jedi knight @ Nov 14 2006, 06:54 PM) | | QUOTE (adroth @ Nov 13 2006, 12:45 PM) | | QUOTE (Judd @ Oct 7 2006, 01:49 AM) | | how many infantry divisions does the PA have at present? |
Here's one way to keep track of the divisions http://adroth.ph/sites/startracker/views/army_view.phpIts still in Beta so some of the background info about the units is still missing. But the list is current. |
hi adroth;
the SFRA under Col. Art Ortiz is not included in the SOCOM units.
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Thanks for the heads up Jedi.
SFRA = Special Forces Regiment (Airborne), right?
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yes sir SFRA - Special Forces Regiment (Airborne)
iamsinned06 - December 26, 2007 07:41 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (CAPT DE ORO @ Nov 1 2006, 08:31 PM) |
| for info. the newly activated 10th Infantry Division last August 2006 is located in Camp Panacan, Davao City. :patrioticpinoy: |
the 10th Infantry (Agila) Division, PA
With MGEN ERNESTO D BOAC AFP as the Division Commander.
Haron - December 31, 2007 03:53 AM (GMT)
[QUOTE=kyle_katarno,Nov 10 2006, 07:54 AM]Differentiate "light" from "heavy" infantry. What would you call "medium"? [/QUOTE]
"light" means poorly armed, underpaid and un-appreciated i think?[/QUOTE]
Light infantry yeah thats cool from my simple understanding,
Maybe what he meant light infantry divions maybe because most are under strenght or below it's authorize toe it's a pity they keep on activating new divisions like armor division and infantry division without significantly increasing it's men.
Do they really merit at all to be called divisions withs its meager manuever batallions and avalable man power.It's rude to a respectable and uncommon 2 star rank to command such force or its just that we have too many of them now a days?
In the pnp it's like a 220 police force in an un name small city with a city police senior superintendent city director with 5 police superintendent manning 5 sub station or percints with another tons of s@#t loads of 9 or 12 police superindents either in floating status or with assignments not commensurate to its rank within the city , and with loads of other chief/senior and inspector officers for a 220+ man force. :scared:
At most the new armored divion could be call mechanized infantry because it had APC's and IFV's instead of tanks. It's not even independent more like a marine cssb cause it lends/opcon its armor/mechanize infantry compaines to infantry division.
i think we ought to invest more men than creating new units or commands.
could early retirements for over the extra stars could be considered?
iamsinned06 - January 5, 2008 07:08 AM (GMT)
Traditionally light infantry (or skirmishers) were soldiers whose job was to provide a skirmishing screen ahead of the main body of infantry, harassing and delaying the enemy advance. Light infantry was distinct from medium, heavy or line infantry. Heavy infantry were dedicated primarily to fighting in tight formations that were the core of large battles. Light infantry often fought in close co-ordination with heavy infantry, where they could screen the heavy infantry from harassing fire, and the heavy infantry could intervene to protect the light infantry from attacks of enemy heavy infantry or cavalry. Heavy infantry originally had heavier arms and more armour than light infantry, but this distinction was lost as the use of armour declined and gunpowder weapons became standardized.
“Light” Infantry has by the original NATO-classification often been units lacking “heavy” anti-armour capacity, only equipped with LAW, systems like M72 LAW and AT4. However, recent technological developments have somewhat blurred that scale.
Today, the term "light" refers not to the lower amount of equipment (and hence weight) that light infantry have to carry, but to the fact that they have fewer and lighter organic assets, e.g. vehicles, mortars, artillery, and anti tank weapons compared to armoured infantry (who use armoured fighting vehicles (AFVs)). In fact because of the lack of organic transport, light infantry may well have to carry heavier loads than fully mechanised infantry. This lack of equipment means that they have less firepower but are much easier to deploy. Light infantry are used where it would not be possible, desirable or cost effective to deploy AFVs and have the advantage that they can be deployed around the world in days (instead of the weeks it would take for a mechanized infantry unit)
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