which Russian made tanks are great for our amry i am just corious about it??

None in my opinion since I believe the PA doesnt need a tank. But if I had to pick one, it would probily be the T-55. It is lighther than other Russian tanks and seeing the insergents dont have any really real anti-tank weapons other than the RPG, the armor would be sufficent. But I wouldnt mind to see Russian IFVs and APCs in AFP inventory.

Havoc is right. Most of the provincial bridges support only a maximum of 10 to 15 tons, too heavy for a MBT. Although russian tanks are the toughest and most rugged tanks around, parts will definite be a problem.

But i think we should look ahead so new problems from the outside may come up so nice to be ready right??? :patrioticpinoy:

Modern russian tanks are known for their size and sheer firepower. With size and firepower equates to bulk and weight. Newer ones like the T80 and T90 are armored so that adds up to its weight. Typical Russian MBT's would weigh somewhere between 45-70 tons! Nowhere in the Philippines could a bridge withstand that! If you were to go for light tanks here are some that you may consider:

PT-76



The PT-76 was developed in 1949-1951 under the leadership of Z.Y. Kotin, and officially adopted on 16 August 1952. The production started in 1953 at the Volgograd Tractor Factory. In 1958 an improved variant, PT-76B, was adopted and remained in production until 1963.

About 7,000 PT-76s were built during the vehicle's lifetime, of which about 2,000 were exported. Over 25 countries employed the vehicle, including Afghanistan, Albania, Angola, China, Congo, Cuba, Egypt, Finland, Guinea, India, Indonesia, Iraq, Laos, Madagascar, Mozambique, North Korea, Pakistan, Poland, Vietnam, and Yugoslavia.

The tank is still in active service in a number of countries. The Russian Army is reported to have used PT-76 units in the ongoing war in Chechnya, and the Indonesian Army used it on the Indonesian island of Ambon during civil unrest from 2000 onwards.

The People's Republic of China is still building Type 63 light tank, based on the PT-76, for its Army and Marine Units. The Type 63 has been exported to Pakistan, Sudan, Tanzania, Myanmar and Vietnam.


Crew 3
Length 6.91 m
Width 3.15 m
Height 2.26 m
Weight 14.0 tonnes
Armour and armament
Armour 14 mm
Main armament 76 mm gun
Secondary armament 7.62 mm machinegun
Mobility
Power plant V-6 diesel
240 hp (177 kW)
Suspension torsion-bar
Road speed 44 km/h
Power/weight 17 hp/tonne
Range 260 km

BMP-3 IFV





The BMP-3, introduced in 1990, is a development of the BMP-1 and BMP-2. It is armed with a 100mm main gun, which can fire conventional HE-Frag shells or AT-10 Stabber ATGMs, a 30mm autocannon, and a 7.62mm machine gun, all mounted coaxially in the turret. There are also two 7.62mm bow machine guns.

The BMP-3 is capable of engaging targets out to 4,000 meters, with its ATGM weapon system (with an approximately eighty percent probability of a hit at that range). For comparison, U.S. M1 Abrams main battle tank is capable of hitting a tank-sized target with a probability of fifty percent at 4,000 meters. Note however that missile based systems have a significant minimum range, within which only gunfire can engage targets, and that the flight time to maximum range is twelve seconds. If the missile launcher is destroyed, missile guidance ceases and the missile may well then miss its target. According to the manufacturer's web-site, all weapons can be fired from the halt, on the move and afloat with the same effectiveness. The ability to hit targets on the move with missiles was demonstrated during competitive evaluations in the UAE in 1991.

Weight 18.7 tonnes
Length 7.14 m
Width 3.2 m
Height 2.4 m
Crew 3 (+7 passengers)

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Armour 35mm max
Primary
armament 100mm gun/launcher 2A70, 30mm autocannon 2A72
Secondary
armament 3×7.62mm PKT machine guns
Engine diesel
500 hp (375 kW)
Power/weight 27 hp/tonne
Suspension torsion bar
Operational
range 600 km
Speed 70 km/h (road)
45 km/h (off-road)

But if you want something light and with firepower, just go for the US Stingray III. This tank is way better than the other 2 mentioned above...in my opinion. Look at the thread about upgrading the Scorpion under Philippine Army (i think) to learn more about it.

but their tanks are not safe at all Like the T 73 i think has a auto loader has only three cwer but the tank was design for small people 4th ft so all of thier tanks are not safe other is a their IVF BMF one hit from RPG since its the tanks gas tanks are outsides so all their tanks dagerous can we modifield make them safer??

i think russian BMP's will do. though they are not tanks, i'm sure they will do the job. but the question is, will uncle sam allow us to purchase weapons from russia? :nono:

What the HELL do you mean T-73? There is no T-73!! You must mean the T-72!

Now go take that Speech Power class for improving both your English as well as your typing!!!


Ayyy Buhayyy....

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comrade MSantor dont be too hard naman sa ating mga kapwa pinoys. Alalahanin mo ang ingles ay second language lang natin so dont expect everybody to speak correctly. The important thing here is as long as we can express ourselves in english even if its not perfect is good enough. So pls stop making discriminating remarks in our english language. :nono:

PEACE comrade. :armycheers:

Our forum is not a literary contest and to be honest, nobody of us here including myself has the perfect command of English for even the English cannot speak English in a perfect grammatical manner.

So, let's be patient. As long as it can be obviously understood and not offensive, we are on to it, otherwise it will turn into an offensive scene if others are offended on the way how they were corrected.

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Iam sorry my mistake i mean T72 my bad !

T-80 tank

T38 is also good

alam ko merong T-38 na trainer plane, meron bang russian tank na ganyan ang designation? Baka T-34...

As good as this tank is, it will not be suitable in the Philippines. Its sheer size and weight is too much for RP bridges to hold. With the current state of the AFP, a smaller russian tank is more feasible prefably those that can ford rivers like the PT-76.

Maybe once the economy improves (sana nga) then 10 of these will surely liven up a parade.

ah, sorry

PT-76 light tanks with turret of the BMP-T will be more effective... Cant turn the turret of the MBT in the Philippine Jungle. The firepower of the BMP-T turret will be enought to makke rebels run for their lives.

Ya but i still like to see a old T 54 Egyptians Army still use a modified version of it right ?

that can't happen

kayang kaya na yan ng mga tulay dito sa Pilipinas

http://www.inetres.com/gp/military/cv/inf/.../BTR-70_03T.jpg


http://www.inetres.com/gp/military/cv/inf/.../BTR-70_00T.jpg


GENERAL DATA
BTR-70
Country of Origin CIS (formerly USSR)
Role Amphibious armored personnel carrier
Date Of Introduction Late 1970s
Crew 3 + 8 passengers
Combat Weight 12.7 tons (11.5 mt)
Ground Pressure ?
Drive Formula 8 x 8
Dimensions (LxWxH) 24.74 x 2.19 x 7.61 ft (7.54 x 2.8 x 2.32 m)
Ground Clearance 18.7 in (0.475 m)
PERFORMANCE
BTR-70
Engine Two 115 hp (85 kw) ZMZ-4095 6 cylinder gasoline
Range 373 miles (600 km)
Fuel Capacity 92 gal (350 l)
Road Speed 50 mph (80 km/h)
Cross Country Speed 28 mph (45 km/h)
Swim Speed 6.2 mph (10 km/h)
Fording Depth Amphibious
Grade 60%
Side Slope 40%
Trench Crossing 6.6 ft (2.0 m)
Vertical Wall Climb 1.6 ft (0.5 m)
PROTECTION
BTR-70
Armor Hull: 0.39 in (10 mm). Turret: 0.28 in (7 mm)
Applique Armor N/A
Explosive Reactive Armor N/A
Active Protective System N/A
NBC Protection System Yes
Smoke Equipment N/A
ARMAMENT
BTR-70
Type Mount Typical Ammo Load
14.5mm KPVT heavy machine gun Turret 500
7.62mm PKT machine gun Coaxial to main gun 2,000
Firing ports: 3 on each side of troop compartment


like the iraiqi national guard perfest for Philippines perfect
:specool:

BTR-70 not really kaya to copy i think the BTR-90 kaya kasi look like siya ng APC natin