-is well-disciplined, well-trained, well-armed and well-equipped... :aberet:

.... well SUPPORTED....and led by ABLE LEADERS WHO KNOW HOW TO DO THINGS RIGHT.


WARRIORS NEED CONSTANT SKILLS IMPROVEMENT AND EDUCATION TO BETTER HANDLE THE EVER-CHANGING SCENARIOS IN THE BATTLEFIELDS.

the ideal pinoy soldier is honest, non-abusive, and tapat sa tungkulin :thumb:

ay hindi ginagamit ng mga politiko at mga opisyal na may pansariling motibo :rifle:

This one tells a lot.

Sgt. Thomas manifested the attribute of finest breed of professional, dedicated, intelligent and chivalrous soldiers.

"Yes. 30, 40 meters, with people. Targets. I know it sounds awfully cruel and it's something you gotta deal with, later on in life, but at the time --

-- I didn't shoot a man who was running across the street who probably has a family at home. I shot a man who had a weapon who was pointing it at me or at one of my friends. " - :thumb: :thumb:


Sgt.Thomas was a US Army Ranger, 1991-1997. He was squad leader on Chalk III -- Super Six Six. He roped in to the street corner by Olympic Hotel. At the time of the 1993 Mogadishu firefight, he was 27 years old.

LET'S HOPE THAT PINOY SOLDIERS WILL LEARN FROM THAT ONE. :mademyd:


http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sh...thomas.html#LAW

SIMILAR POSTING IS ALSO SHOWN IN OPUS / PHILIPPINE DEFENSE FORUM

So What are you trying to imply here that Filipino soldires will just indiscriminately fire at Civilians????Take a Look at your firends, they assasinated Tabara and his Daugthers boyfriend. Dude you are barking a the wrong tree.

You think the Seargeant would tell the world about the collateral damage?? when you are in a firefight, you make split seconds decisions. He who hesitates will get capped.

Di naman ganun kaibigan.

This is just one way of reminding the soldiers, you guys, no matter what happens in the battlefield, you must maintain how one should think and act under these circumstances or under extreme pressure.

Marami kasi ang sundalo na nakakalimitan yan.

Nakita mo ba yung isang sundalo nung ginaganap yung Lamitan siege?

Imagine huh? SAW hawak nya ang nagpapaulan ng bala sa walang malinaw na direksyun ... EH PINAPALIBUTAN NG KABAHAYAn YUN.

Isa lang yun sa pagpapatunay na marami sa ating sundalo ang di pa gaanung naunawaan yan.

Let's not take that as an offense but as a reminder instead.

Yung collateral damage ay understandable ....AS LONG AS IT IS NOT INTENTIONAL OR OUT OF INDISCRIMINATE FIRING.

:armygrin:

That US Army Ranger even implied that HE DON'T USUALLY FIRE HIS WEAPON WHEN HIS RUNNING..COZ THAT WONT HIT THE RIGHT TARGET.

HE ONLY SHOOT WHEN HE IS DEAD SURE THAT HE'LL BE HITTING THE RIGHT TARGET.

PROFESSIONALISM REALLY MAKES THE DIFFERENCE kung anu talaga ang kalidad ng isang sundalo.

KAYA MALINIS ANG KUNSENSYA AT WALANG TAKOT SA ANU MANG MANGYARI SA BUHAY NYA KASI HE'S JUST ...


...SERVING THOSE HE SWRON TO SERVE....WITH DIGNITY AND PRIDE. :thumb: :thumb:

that's a factor .... but not a reason to forget your responsibility :armywink:

..and you aren't rebels.

....YOU ARE THE DEFENDERS OF THE FILIPINO PEOPLE.

That tactic is expected of rebel groups. Those actions must nonetheless be hit by the civil society. The Human Rights advocates and NGOs must criticize this one.

But ofcourse, when you join either side, then expect that there'll be THOSE KIND OF RISKS.

That's why you are also there to counter that threat.

You must keep that distinction of being the opposite of what you are tasked to hunt down.

ELSE, YOU'LL LOSE THE PEOPLE'S SYMPATHY TO YOUR ENEMIES...BECAUSE THESE REBELS ARE OFTENTIMES CLOSER TO THE PEOPLE THAT YOU'VE SWORN TO PROTECT BECAUSE THEY INTERACT MORE OFTEN THAN YOU GUYS :aberet:

do you know how many civilians got killed in Somailia when they were doing air support with the little birds using their miniguns???

Your responsibiltiy is to stay alive. Your responsibility is to watch your buddies' back.

Aha, they were trying to flank the Terrorist, And waht do you do when your trying to flank your enemy???????? Ting !!!!!survey said: We need covering fire. Explains why the guy had a SAW. Keep em heads down to outmaneuver the enemy. ARMY 101.

Even their US air strikes in Iraq is similar to that.

Pero that's a different situation.

Pero alam mo parang something went wrong there kasi 1000 Somalis nga ang namatay.

Sana di mangyari yan dito sa bansa natin.

May punto yung factor na by instincts ang reaction pero dapat sana ma enhance ang instinct na yan ...

...para mabawasan ang mga collateral damage. :dunno:

at fault na din ng Somalis to some extent kasi lumusog din sila eh. Siyempre defensive action na yung part ng US. May lumulusob sa lahat ng sides. Kuyog kungbaga.

Sa isang banda ay fault din ng US kasi bakit parang mali ang naging strategy?

Dami namatay na pwede naman sanang naiwasan kung iba ang paraan.

Time pressure ba kaya lumusob sa gitna ng city?

or anything else pa?

Ok ka Mr. Flipzi very articulate!



:bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:

can you site any solution? any strategy? :demon:
it's hard to comment if you're not on the situation.. kasi ang mga naisip natin na solution.. you won't remember it pag nasa combat ka na.. it's not a bed of roses where you have the luxury of time to think.. quarter of a second late means death for you ang your troops.

That's true but there was (as it seemed) something that they did not consider much.

Intel, that is.

Why penetrate the city when you damn well know that all that are living there sympathize with the target...AND ALL ARE ALMOST ARMED.

Even the best of Spec Ops troops (maski Scout Rangers pa) wont be able to survive that environment without losing some or worst, no one will get out of there alive.

That place was a trap.

They should have learned how much resistance they would get if ever they penetrate that city .... and the weapons of their enemy.

Imagine, the Blackhawks flew very low and the buildings were high enough to be a good position for hostile element holding an RPG.

That means they somewhat miscalculated the strength and the possible reactions they could get from the people living there. Mobs made that battle worst.

But this is just my view. :dunno:

They should have fielded a less noticeable force or protected the troopers with APCs.

They could not have gotten out there if not for the APCs provided by the UN base right?

When Spec Ops is concerned, the enemies number and might MUST BE CONSIDERED to make it a success.

When Spec Ops loses stealth, precise intel info and the element of surprise.... then their offensive move turns into the defensive side.

Summer 2000 Campaign launched against the MILF and Somalia incident have proven that.

But then again, that's just my observation.
:armyroleyes:

....

how about well-fed too?! :devilwink:

well fed?


SRs admitted though that they'd rather open a can of sardines than prepare that messy dish.... WHEN THEY ARE IN THE FIELD.

Sabi naman nila masarap ang ulam pag sa kampo na!

PERO DAPAT MAY NUTRITIONIST DIN SA AFP :exactly:

Dibah yung SEALS may high-nutrition food na dala?

Dapat ang mga Pinoy soldiers din.

It's about time they enhance this one.

Imagine less weight but much better food?

a fighting man fights happiest when he's stomach is full

-old chinese proverb :armygrin:

HIndi lang dapat mataas ang morale kundi dapat maganda rin pakiramdam ng katawan.

Healthy bodies makes healthy minds.

:armycheers:

Anu kaya kung may supply ng SMB sa lahat ng kampo?
hehehehe.... joke lang
:armycheers:

:agree:
nothing is more pleasing to the weary soldier returning from combat or long patrol than a hot meal ...

:agree: inom na rin tayo :armycheers:

hot meal ? baka SOMETHING HOT?

hehehe .... AMININNNNNNNNNNNNN...

...is every civilian defending his home and family.

Against whom? :demon:

will not tolerate erring soldiers

:salute: all there equepment loyal to the country and president highly triand :patrioticpinoy: