Look closely at this Light Armor Division Hummer, man, this beast is on steroids - the raised hood speaks power , up-armored doors, windows and awesome Gatling gun.

Kudos to the Army guys! More of this please.

Nice, very nice indeed.

The camo scheme is superb - just right for both urban and rural environment. The Marines should note this.

Does the raised hood indicate a more powerful engine?

Good job Army :thumb:

Gunshield, or a small turret, for the Gatling gunner required.

Beautiful, yep, the camo scheme is very nice, nice adaptation to the concrete and vegetation in the picture.

Was this built in-house or the Army guys contracted the upgrade to Steelcraft, etc. ?

Yes, there should be a gunshield for the gunner, preferably using transparent armored glass .

Kudos to the Army :ssalute:

yessir, i just noticed the beige (or light tan) paint of the hummer blended well with the sidewalk and the green portions blended with the trees.

i think this is a more versatile paint scheme compared to the purely urban scheme of the PMRF.

congratulations to the Philippine Army.

:armycheers:

and yes, there should be more of this in the field, just imagine those gatling barrels blazing away at enemy ambushers' positions !

i noticed another difference from the original US Humvee aside from the raised hood: the grill of the PA version has six horizontal slats whilst the US version has vertical slats. All in all - mas pogi at macho tingnan yung Humvee natin

:armysmile:

secret lang pala tumira ang Army ha! hooah!

I don't think the raised hood indicates a more powerful engine, its an ingenious way of adding more protection to the engine by placing the vents at the sides (note the bolted on plating on the hood). The diagonally-placed horizontal slats would offer better protection from shrapnel/bullets than the conventional horizontal grille of the original HMMWV. A shot-up engine would not be of help in extricating the vehicle from the ambush site. The Army has done its homework in refabricating this Humvee.

Kudos indeed :specool:

great work the army did on this vehicle, the only visible weak point is the unshielded gatling gun mount, makes the gunner easy prey to marksmen.

i think the camo scheme is not new, its also the camo pattern on army simba apcs and trucks.

Question guys. Did our PA refurbished/armoured this humvee on their own or it came along with the gun complete from the U.S.?

i would like to believe that this Humvee was refurbished in-house, but then its too well-made, the quality of construction is evident, its also likely that this came from outside.

but i hope the army really has the capability to produce refurb vehicles as good as this Humvee.

Sorry to disappoint you guys but this PA HMMWV is not PA-developed/refurbished but one of the newer up-specced HMMWVs provided by the US government.





and to disappoint you further, this PA vehicle is intended for escort of AFP and PA VIPs within NCR area and not for field deployment.

The Dillon M134D Gatling gun probably also came with the vehicle.

Maybe if we put this kind of turret and gun the effect will be surely devastating





That is definitely cool.....

safety of the generals is of primary concern

how many of this new humvees did the army receive?

WOW!

Good thing you showed this!

I saw the video on CHANNEL 4 of the parade during the Army chief turnover ceremony. The parade included "Gagamba" and the MX8 that Steelcraft was building. The Humvee with a Gatling was leading the line of armoured units.

The Humvee with a Gatling is not bad, but if this is set up like this, NOT MOUNTED ON A TURRET, the gunner is too vulnerable to enemy sniper fire.

This will not be suited for battles in the usual ground.

SUCH SETUP WILL ONLY BE SUITED FOR BASE DEFENSE AND URBAN COUNTER-TERO UNITS.

I strongly suggest they install this to the MK8 instead or the Simba.

Else, they design a fully enclosed turret on the Humvee for the suitable mount.

My azz, I thought its Philippine Army sariling-sikap hehehe!

By the way, the plate number says 'ARMOR' - are they allowed to sport vanity plates? :armysmile:

To Kampilan and Numbers: Masyado naman kayong negative, kararating nga lang nung equipment eh. Have you seen the concept papers for the deployment of the weapon? It was only there at the parade to showcase the projects of the outgoing.

I hope you'll be the first to be on the receiving end of that weapon.

Duh? what of me being negative?

I just slapped myself for mistaking this Humvee to be of local development after Kampilan clarified that its actually one of the newer, improved Humvees provided by the Americans.

Why would you wish me to be the first on the receiving end of that weapon?
Careful with your words or else you will be munching on much more than the deep fried snacks that you are. :armywink:

Our humvees are adorable but not as though as the Us humvee
look at the difference our humvee has turret the gunner have no protection from enemy fires look at the Us humvee look at the turret the gunner is very protected
I will never ride that humvee a gunner....

Our gunners are tougher, they don't need gunshields.

American gunners are wimps - they hide behind gunshields. :demon:

And with a dead gunner, you have a useless gatling gun... :drunk:

The army had that hmmwv for more than 10 years now. Its the initiative of the armor personnel to maintain it at its tip-top condition.

Be awed by its beauty.

And NO, the hummers won't get the gatlings, that's just for show. And just guess WHERE???

Grabe ka naman.

By the way, the best gun for the Humvee that is not mounted with a fully enclosed turret is the higher caliber guns like the .50 cal or 20mm guns.

These are long range weapons and that will allow shooting targets from a much safer distance.

If the Humee has no turret, LET'S STICK TO THE .50 CAL OR 20MM GUNS.

hehehe, saver, naka armor vest naman yung gunner

hmmm, pareho ba?

Seems like this humvee is having a hard time carrying its load due to visible abnormal wear patterns on the tire threads. front armor looks good for frontal attacks but useless on attack not directly straight ahead.

Also, cantilevered bracket design will not be able to last long, the stresses, wear and tear involved in this equipment will easily render this mounting inoperable.

The gatling gun should be enclosed in a fully-sealed turret, or else the gunner would be easy pray for snipers. That's my humble opinion only. hope i don't get the receiving end of this weapon.

:lollol:

Yeah, which reminds me of U.S. soldiers in full armour and kevlar helmets being shot like turkeys in the Middle East. And they are learning from it.

Why wait and learn the hard way on our part. :armyLol:

Even the gunner have a Vest what if the sniper shoot the gunner in the head and most of professional sniper shoot targets in the head what do you think will happen.Even the soldier have a kelvar helmet and Vest useless sniper rifle bullets are all pointed not parabellum so the bullet will pierce into those kelvars ...
Bro we definitely need those armored gunshields... If the goverment will provide funds....The army needs brave soldiers but too much bravery can lead you to death bravery is useless when you are dead....

If there's no funds available. maybe they can get the old armor plates cut-out from the engine-upgraded V-150s, LAD can easily manufacture the gun shields. only the armor is expensive.

The PA must learn from American experiences.....

SgtBilko and all,


Im not familair enough with the armor.

What is the best armor material? What alloy is it?

What thickness can withstand what?

How about the best glass or windshield material?

Ballistic armor plates usually comes from 3mm to 25mm thick, thicker plates are available but at a higher cost.

4.5mm is usually enough for smaller arms (Ex. China made anti-riot vehicles)
6.4mm is good for M16 rifles (V-150)
9.0mm is good for .30 calibers (Simba)
14.0mm should be enough for 12.7mm (0.50 caliber) (Stryker) please confirm anyone?

these are only my estimates.

There are numerous types of glasses, from pure acrylic to polyclad to pure laminated glass. it really depends on what application you need. Bullet resistant glass has already been perfected by many U.S. companies. but for most low-cost application, laminated glass w/ interlayers of polycarbonate should be enough.

Hope i was able to shed some light on the topic. hope other professionals can confirm the info i just gave you.
:armysmile:

turret suggestion for the PA Humvee:

Chavis turret -

built by USAF technicians and named after Airman 1st Class Leebernard Chavis, who was killed by sniper fire in October 2006 while sitting in the open turret of his Humvee

looks simple enough, I think the army has the capability to build a similar turret.

kawawa kasi yung gunner ng gatling, very exposed :ssalute:

The Light armor division can easily manufacture these turrets. it would save money and add protection to the gunner at a very low cost. I think the cupola turret on the converted M113 with 20mm canon can be used for the gatling gun, if the humvee can still carry the extra load.

I hope sir coldeadfish can clarify this but I think the ballistic glass on that Chavis turret can be penetrated by a .30cal round from a Garand rifle or M14 which are carried by communist and islamic terrorists.

googled and found this improved version of the Chavis turret with thicker glass:

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/now-th...s-turret-03171/

I think that turret is very expensive.....

what made you think its expensive, have you computed the cost?

didn't you know that the turret was made from discarded materials found in the motorpool?

Because when i see it it looks like brand new...i dont now that it came from scrap metal.....