Military gradually phasing out US-made Humvees
The Philippine Star
Monday, March 3, 2008 06:18 PM


The Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) is gradually phasing out the more expensive United States (US)-made Humvees from its inventory to accommodate South Korea's version of this medium size-multi-purpose military vehicle.

This year, the AFP through the Philippine Defense Reform (PDR)'s Capability Upgrade Program (CUP) is expected to receive 600 KM450s troop carrier from Seoul.

Out the 600, the South Korea had delivered 150 units of this light-type vehicle primarily designed to transport troops and cargo for tactical movement and combat operations.

In last Friday's interfaith rally in Makati City, dozens of these vehicles were deployed in military camps ready to transport troops anywhere in Metro Manila.

Compared to the existing US-made Humvees, the KM450s light vehicle is easy to maintain as its spareparts are readily available in the market. Most of the military's light transport vehicle such as the Humvees have been acquired from the US. -- Jaime Laude

i dont mind, humvees are gas guzzlers and spares are very expensive compared to the korean trucks.

The humvees are also no IED proof so why not go for a cheaper ones like that korean mades, it offers similar function anyway.

Those damn Hummers are just some contractor who got rich out of it. It was useless, hard to manuever and so wide, plus it kept having maintenance problems and for all the other reasons as stated above.

What's the advantage of the HumVee over other vehicles? Idea ko why not create a project wherein we remove the upper part then equip it with an armored body like the MX prototypes. At the very least a mobile mortar or ambulance. No idea with the engine if it would be easy to replace that with something else but before we close our doors to it why not check out the ChiCom version of it - then steal that tech for the engine then build it here. Start off natin with parts that need regular replacement and so on.

Replacing the engines for these humvees is a very difficult task. that's why we haven't seen any conversions done. the space inside is so compact. the V-8 engine is also small. a normal 6 cylinder straight diesel would be impossible to fit inside the engine bay.

The Humvee is an excellent heavy-duty vehicle if your military has the budget to maintain it. its like the M1 Abrams, an excellent vehicle but a nightmare for logistics and maintenance.

[SIZE=7]I DEFINITELY AGREE!

MANY HUMVEES ARE NOW BEING SCRAPPED FOR SPAREPARTS DUE TO ITS VERY, VERY COSTLY SPARE PARTS PRICES. IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO MAINTAIN, LALO NA IF WE HAVE A MINSCULE BUDGET...

Maybe local manufacturers like Steelcraft can work with the Japanese or Korean car manufacturers who have factories here and build a semi-armored 4x4 versatile transport vehicle.

We have built Humvee copycats so why cant we built a good one out of our own design that matches our specifications?

Baka gamitin daw yung KM450 para sa libreng sakay sa strike bukas.

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Here's a link a found with pictures of the KM450 also known as M715 in the US.
http://www.angelfire.com/nb2/jeeppickups/Kia.html

Local humvee copycats use Surplus Nissan Safari chassis, suspension & engine. I doubt if there'd be enough supply to go around. If they used brand new nissan patrol chassis. i think it would be more expensive than the Barako. :wow:

The problem w/ the humvees hindi sila v-shaped hull, no much bottom protections, and it wasn't designed to sustain against any earth-moving bombs or IED (Improvised Explosive Device) that are stronger than the typical landmines. Sure we can add more armor on top of it, and more power to its engine, but what's gonna be the use of it if it has no hull protection anyway, right? Sayang ang pera. What we need to build are those armored vehicles that are similar to the american made MRAP (Mine Resistant Ambush Protected) that are protected from the bottom hull upto its driver and passenger compartments w/ its hanging/suspended seats.

Like this one (modified cougar):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MRAP_(armored_vehicle)



Other variants of Cougar w/ MRAP modification:
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http:/...1&ct=image&cd=1
http://www.defenselink.mil/home/features/2007/mrap/






What we need to do is to build our own version of MRAP.

:armycheers:

A flat shaped bottom is better than having a chassis. since a chassis doesn't dissipate any of the landmine's energies but actually traps and concentrates the energy within the chassis walls making it more powerful. But indeed, nothing beats a V-shaped hull.

However, they should check if the U.S.'s MRAP design is good for our actual combat use since these vehicles have a center of gravity, which is not so stable for very off-road conditions and can easily be spotted for ambush. the MRAPs were designed for middleeast use were long stretches of flat landscapes are common.

Ito link to ChiCom HumVee:

http://www.chinacartimes.com/2006/11/13/th...ongfeng-eq2050/

If hindi na pwede ang mga HumVees natin for military use why not outfit them for relief operations?

That's a great idea... Or place them to the auction.

one of our humvees got hit on the left fender while turning right fron mckinley towards edsa it was not our fault so the trucking company decided to pa \y for the damages, the fender costs P20,000.

Original Fender ? hindi ninyo pinayagan i-body repair :lol:

I see a lot of humvees being repaired at daveo. dunno where they would get the spares.

the humvees are better than the trucks they replaced, the kennedy types. mas maganda gamitin sa off road conditions.

Front Fender?

That would be expensive since the fender and hood of the humvee is made of fiberglass. try letting the guys over a dimasalang fix it, maybe you can get better prices.

the Hummvees will still be around (the AFP) as long as it still runs.