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Tora^2 - May 22, 2008 01:39 PM (GMT)
The most important make or break development in Philippine Poilitics since EDSA 2 and the 2004 Elections would have to be the upcoming 2010 National Elections.

Please post news (I know I'm 2 years early but we already have likely candidates running around) and your views especially on who do you think would be our president.

Numbers - June 1, 2008 07:00 AM (GMT)
The thread title says 2008...I thought the election was moved 2 years earlier :armysmile:

Rumored candidates are already blasting the airwaves with their ads - Loren, Villar, Bayani, Chiz, Palengke Roxas etc..

This early, Loren Legarda is a personal favorite.

spraret - June 1, 2008 09:53 AM (GMT)
Edited thread title

Tora^2 - June 1, 2008 04:52 PM (GMT)
From what I've read, Loren is just as conceited as the Lady in the Palace the only difference is that she has the charisma and charm which she is more than happy to take advantage of.

You guys might want to read this PCIJ expose on Loren from way back
http://www.pcij.org/imag/PublicEye/loren3.html


seWer Rat - June 1, 2008 10:59 PM (GMT)
Conceit is a common trait among ambitious people and can be sometimes healthy. Just don't pair it with another c word - corruption.

My personal choice is Chiz, he is our version of Barack Obama. Young, idealistic, and driven.


el_ramon - June 2, 2008 02:43 PM (GMT)
villar has his itawag mo nay villar thing.. panalo broadcast media hehe

Tora^2 - June 2, 2008 05:52 PM (GMT)
Speaking of Broadcast media, it appears several possible presidentiables have had a headstart not only in the 2010 campaign trail but also in the race to raise funds.

What better way to earn money and gain a little media mleage than play celebrity endorser for several products?

To name a few:

Sen. Panfilo Lacson (Skin care treatment)

Sen. Francis Kiko Pangalinan (Instant Noodles along with his wife and extremely bankable celeb endorser Sharon Cuneta)

Sen. Loren Legarda (SKin whitening treatment)

Sen. Mar Roxas (Laundry Detergent)

Sen. Francis Chiz Escudero (slimming treatment)

Now, if Kiko was able bank on her wife's charisma, would Cong Anton Lagdameo win as Senator considering his wife Dawn Zulueta is the most exposed and best selling celeb endorser nowadays?

spraret - June 3, 2008 02:46 AM (GMT)
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Now, if Kiko was able bank on her wife's charisma, would Cong Anton Lagdameo win as Senator considering his wife Dawn Zulueta is the most exposed and best selling celeb endorser nowada


Still not a guarantee, even Richard Gomez votes in Leyte were not that spectacular considering its the home province of his wife, Lucy Torres. And of course, Richard is a celebrity himself and he lost, also Cesar Montano.

strikeeagle - June 6, 2008 03:30 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Tora^2 @ Jun 2 2008, 12:52 AM)
From what I've read, Loren is just as conceited as the Lady in the Palace the only difference is that she has the charisma and charm which she is more than happy to take advantage of.

You guys might want to read this PCIJ expose on Loren from way back
http://www.pcij.org/imag/PublicEye/loren3.html

:salute: I agree Sir Tora Tora. I'll gor for Senator Chiz. :ssalute:

Tora^2 - June 6, 2008 06:18 AM (GMT)
Sorry but I'm not to crazy over Chiz. While he had gained mileage in exposes and Hose and Senate queries, he appears to have authored very few bills and only grabbed credit by merely co-writing with other Senators and plating talking head on major issues.

:headbang:

My choice for president unfortunetely has yet to emerge. We can and have voted alternative politicos before (which includes Cory) and some of the best examples would also include the Governor of Pampanga, Fr Ed Panlilio. Too bad we have yet to see a banakble National figure of that kind emerge who can really bag the Nation's vote after Raul roco passed away.

kopinux - June 11, 2008 12:40 AM (GMT)
si bayani fernando!

though it looks like kabayan will win though.

mazingu - July 16, 2008 10:52 AM (GMT)
sen. bong revilla announce his intention to run for vice president but will give way to gov. vilma santos if she decides to run.

the actors and actresses are back :banana:

Fmr TOPP Awardee 82'PNP - July 17, 2008 12:20 AM (GMT)
And this will need a refurbishment on our legislature to add a platform for stage-shows.

mazingu - July 17, 2008 01:45 AM (GMT)
and jinggoy will run for president if his father erap is not allowed

jinggoy-bong tandem , what do you think guys?


Tora^2 - July 23, 2008 01:14 PM (GMT)
Not interested.

The PDI Editorial for today best explains why I am not voting for CHiz:

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Editorial
The timidity of hope



Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 00:05:00 07/23/2008


Earlier, an explosion of idealism took place among students. There was talk that this development astounded and worried the administration of President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo so much that marching orders were given to destroy the personality thought to have sparked it: Rodolfo Noel Lozada Jr., the whistleblower on the national broadband network (NBN) deal with ZTE Corp. By the time classes resumed, he was supposed to be reduced to being a has-been, and with that, the political problem of student activism would be buried.

We are all used to the powers-that-be thinking in such terms, and it has to be said that there is little evidence to show that tactically speaking, the administration is wrong in its approach. Here its critics and main opponents have been sidelined, and it has managed to present the illusion that it is here to stay.

In recent weeks, students have been reported to be engaging in walkouts from their classes to protest everything, from insufficient budgets for education to high inflation and the many other ills plaguing society. These events, however, are stunts, and they lack what the authorities fear most: the impression that these represent a growing tide that can no longer be reversed.

These stunts are taking place for a reason, and it has less to do with the return of students to their classes and more with the State of the Nation Address on Monday. Previously formed student organizations are trying to prove they have clout, that they have followers, and that they haven’t given up the fight. And yet, what they are doing is a far cry from the noise barrages and protest actions that saw the students outnumbering practically every other sector publicly manifesting dissatisfaction with the status quo. The truth is that the ranks of the concerned youth have been decimated by economic reality. Too many have had to stop going to school, for one thing, and too many have found their idealism tempered, yet again, by disillusionment with their elders.

Earlier this year, the youth, of whom their elders had already been despairing, proved themselves capable of righteous indignation and concerted action. Their rising to the occasion, however, wasn’t accompanied by their elders setting aside petty differences and ambition. And so, out of sight and out of the politicians’ minds, the youth have taken to biding their time, nursing their wounds, and planning for what they hope will be better days under better leaders.

With 2010—and beyond—dancing before their eyes, politicians have taken to courting the youth. No one has been better at it than Sen. Francis Escudero, who has in many ways presented himself as the incarnation of what Barack Obama has called “the audacity of hope.” But it must be asked if its Philippine version isn’t the exact opposite, for we are troubled by the mixed messages Escudero has been sending out.

Referring to the present dispensation and his political plans, Escudero has said, “We have already suffered and sacrificed for seven years, what is two years?” This is a cunning statement, at once reinforcing his opposition credentials while paving the way to give the present suspects a free pass should they relinquish power.

He laid the predicate for this some weeks back when he said: “GMA [President Arroyo] is not running in 2010, and it would be unfair to the people if presidential candidates should still use her as an issue. Any candidate who runs on an anti-GMA platform is insulting the intelligence of the people. The people will vote for a presidential candidate because of what he or she intends to do if victorious, not because he or she is against GMA.”

This is taking the high road to enable the highwaymen to escape. It ignores the demand of the studentry in recent months both for accountability and for democratic processes to function. It is being said, however, in such a seductive way as to disguise not just political pragmatism, but opportunism. Escudero has been making these statements in the context of administration coalition overtures to his party, the Nationalist People’s Coalition (NPC), and talk of administration support for an NPC presidential and vice-presidential slate on which Escudero might possibly star.

So young—and so out of touch?

seWer Rat - November 6, 2008 11:25 PM (GMT)
Presidential race 2010: Noli top pick, Villar narrows gap

11/07/2008 | 12:12 AM
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MANILA, Philippines - Vice-President Noli L. de Castro is still the top pick to succeed President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo in 2010 but second-placed Senate President Manuel B. Villar, Jr. is closing the gap, a new Social Weather Stations (SWS) survey showed.

Mr. de Castro’s latest score of 29%, though slightly lower from 31% in June, kept him the respondents’ main choice to replace Mrs. Arroyo. Mr. Villar, however, was nipping at his heels at 28%, in the process leapfrogging over Senator Loren Legarda — second in three of the last four quarters — who was in third at 26%.

Sen. Panfilo Lacson was fourth with 17%, followed by Sen. Francis Escudero (16%), former President Joseph Estrada (13%), and Sen. Manuel "Mar" Roxas (13%).

There has basically been no major shifts in positions for the six people below Mr. de Castro over the past year, the survey showed.

Mrs. Arroyo — long subject of talk that she wants to stay in power longer than allowed by the Constitution — made a reappearance in the survey, scoring 1% along with Metro Manila Development Authority chief Bayani Fernando; senators Antonio Trillanes IV, Juan Ponce Enrile, Francis "Kiko" Pangilinan, Miriam Defensor-Santiago, Richard Gordon, Jose "Jinggoy" Estrada, Maria Ana Consuelo "Jamby" Madrigal, and Pia Cayetano; and former House Speaker Jose de Venecia.

Scores of half a percent each were recorded for senators Alan Peter Cayetano and Ramon "Bong" Revilla Jr.

Nine percent of the respondents could not give an answer or had no one to recommend.

The survey, made exclusive to BusinessWorld, was conducted over September 24-27, 2008 using face-to-face interviews of 1,500 adults nationwide. The sampling error margins were 2.5% for national percentages and 6% for Metro Manila, Visayas and Mindanao, and 4% for Balance Luzon,

Respondents were asked: "Under the present Constitution, the term of President Arroyo is up to 2010 only, and there will be an election for a new president in May 2010. Who do you think are good leaders who should succeed President Arroyo as president? You may give up to three names." No list was provided.

Mr. de Castro welcomed the results and said he would continue promoting the interest of the poor.

"I thank the people for their continued trust and confidence in me ... I appreciate their support and view it as an appreciation of my sincerity to seek solutions to their problems," he said in a text message.

Senators Villar, Legarda, Lacson and Roxas were not immediately available for comment.

Mr. Escudero, meanwhile, said the respondents should have been asked to pick just one candidate. "Presidential elections are a one on one and do not involve choosing three or two."

Margaux Salcedo, spokesman of Mr. Estrada, said the results showed the former President still enjoyed support.

"Even if former President Estrada was ousted, a lot of people believe that his ouster was unconstitutional, a power grab. Even if he was convicted by the Sandiganbayan, the fact that Filipinos still trust him show that they regard the charges against him as untrue," she said.

Malacañang, meanwhile, said it did not give much importance to the results.

"Even if the survey said 1% wants the President to replace herself in 2010, we will not give much significance to the result. What we are focusing on is good governance so the country can weather the global economic crisis," Press Secretary Jesus G. Dureza said.

Mr. Fernando, who has publicly declared his interest in running for president, said: "I do not know that survey. I have no comment on that."

Amado M. Mendoza, Jr., a political analyst at the University of the Philippines, said Mr. de Castro, Mr. Villar and Ms. Legarda were practically equal in terms of scores.

"Given the margin of error, they are almost of the same rank," he said in the vernacular.

He said Mr. de Castro had maintained his lead because of his popularity as a former broadcaster, and his not being involved in any controversial issue.

Mr. Villar’s gain, said Mr. Mendoza, may have been due to his avowed aim to support Filipino migrants. The senator has been running advertisements touting assistance extended to Filipinos working abroad.

"But this could be a seasonal variation," Mr. Mendoza said. — from a report by A. D. B. Romero, BusinessWorld


saver111 - November 12, 2008 12:11 PM (GMT)
Binay as our Obama???

No way JeJose!

user posted image

:banana:

digoy - April 15, 2009 08:47 AM (GMT)
there is justice Puno - president
chiz - vice president tandemn

spearhead - May 7, 2009 02:18 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (saver111 @ Nov 12 2008, 08:11 PM)
Binay as our Obama???

No way JeJose!

user posted image

:banana:

kahawig din ni manny pacquiao :armyLol:

mazingu - May 27, 2009 12:21 PM (GMT)

epigone - May 27, 2009 07:00 PM (GMT)
What is frightening are closet commie senators who happen to be popular because of their wives. Sell-outs! They tried to expel him in fraternity because of his leftist views. Madaldali ang pagbukas ng revolutionary situation. Bakit ganito itong senador na ito. He was blessed with too much wealth. His father is a big-time businessman. Bakit ganito magisip itong senador na ito. Gaya lang ng fraternity brod ko na minamata kami sa fraternity who side with democratic capitalism. "May pera ka ba?" Ganyan magisip itong senador na ito. Madadali nga ang pag-create ng revolutionary situation. Pagnatapos si Loren, siya na ang susunod. Patay tayo lahat sa senador na ito. Sigurado ko. I was just playing with him in UP. Kunwari sakay sa uso ako pero kinmumuhian ko.Pati Balikatan excercise, negatibo ang pagpuna.

saver111 - June 5, 2009 11:49 AM (GMT)
LACSON bows out!

'Dismayed' Lacson abandons presidential plans
06/05/2009 | 07:25 PM
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MANILA, Philippines — Citing what he called a setup favoring the moneyed, Sen. Panfilo Lacson announced Friday evening he is "retiring" from the presidential race for 2010.

Lacson made the announcement through a pre-recorded message at a leadership forum featuring prospective presidential bets at the University of the Philippines in Diliman, Quezon City.

"Reaching out to the voters, particularly those in the D and E income levels, which altogether comprise some four-fifths of the population, does not come easy. It is most expensive in a political system which has neither strong institutions nor correct procedures," he said in his message.

"The time has come to face the reality that the intent to lead in this land in order to do good, has become an enterprise only for those who have access to unlimited funds... I bow to that reality, which is why I have chosen not to participate any more in this laudable forum of those who seek the presidency of the land," he added.

Lacson hinted he may support a leader who can "best deliver our people from the bondage they now suffer."

"Rest assured that in time, we will all join together to support a leader who could best deliver our people from the bondage they now suffer. That leader must have both the competence and character that are the preconditions to purposive leadership so imperative in these crossroads of the nation’s life," he said.

The message was also posted on his website (http://www.pinglacson.net/news/54) Friday night.

Lacson said what the country has today is a "feudal setup foolishly labeled as democracy," where transactional politics is entrenched both in the bureaucracy and local government units.

Under such a setup, he added the poor are deluded into believing that throwing candies or giving instant noodles or occasional help in distress is the be-all and end-all of public service.

"In the grind for survival, the poor forget all too often that the occasional goodies they get are mere scraps from the tables of the immoderately greedy powerful who plunder public coffers, or abuse power for self-profit," he said.

Lacson admitted that he was tempted to avail of his P200-million pork barrel allocation for his campaign.

"Minsan ay sumagi na rin sa aking isipan na tanggapin na ang 200 milyong pisong pork barrel bawat taon para sa isang senador upang magamit at makasabay man lang sa isang magastos na pangangampanya.

Nguni't, at mabuti na lamang, nanaig pa rin sa aking isipan na ipagpatuloy ang isang adhikain at paniniwala na higit sa ano pa mang bagay, mas mahalaga ang integridad sa isang tulad kong inihalal ng bayan upang maglingkod nang tapat at walang halong pag-iimbot [It had crossed my mind to avail of the P200-million pork barrel fund for senators just to keep up with the other candidates. But I thought better of it. In the end, integrity and honest service are more valuable]," he said.

He also cited a quote from Charles de Gaulle of France, who put order back in a land wracked by anarchy, that “in order to become the master, the politician poses as the servant."

"Like his forebear Nostradamus, he might have foreseen the Philippine political scene of this generation," he said.

"But I refuse to lie. And I refuse to purvey make-believe storyboards and saturate the airwaves with fairy tales," he added.

Lacson lamented that even if he tried to communicate the truth to people given "extremely limited resources" he could raise from well-meaning friends, "the time has come to face the reality that the intent to lead in this land in order to do good, has become an enterprise only for those who have access to unlimited funds."

"I bow to that reality, which is why I have chosen not to participate any more in this laudable forum of those who seek the presidency of the land. And I beg your favor that you read this message that springs from my heart," he said.

Lacson appealed to the learned and the highly educated in society to share their thoughts and help guide the vulnerable 80% of the Filipino electorate to vote wisely and conscientiously, "not for their day to day personal needs, but for a country that we all love and care for."

"Magkaisa po tayong tumulong sa isang taong batay sa karanasan at sa ugali, ay alam nating hindi magnanakaw at hindi gagamitin ang kapangyarihang hiram para magpasasa sa sariling interes.
Maraming salamat po. Mabuhay ang sambayanang Pilipino (Let us unite to support a leader who will not steal and use stolen power to advance his own interests. Thank you. Long live the Filipino people)!" he said. - GMANews.TV

http://www.gmanews.tv/story/164212/Dismaye...sidential-plans




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