Title: High-Speed Patrol and Attack Craft
Description: includes MPAC discussion
Description: includes MPAC discussion
spiderweb6969 - May 16, 2007 05:16 PM (GMT)
Philippines Rebids Attack Craft Program
Sea Power, Feb 2007
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa37...02/ai_n18708915
The Republic of the Philippines will rebid its Multi-Purpose Attack Craft program. The program calls for the construction and delivery of three patrol craft to the Philippine Navy in 270 days. Total funding authorized for the program is $4.42 million.
The program was initially bid in 2005, with the low bidder being Maritime Partners of Norway at $2.6 million to cover the costs of two craft. However, the program never proceeded past that point until the rebid documents became public again in late 2006.
Funding for the new bid is $1.47 million per unit, slightly higher than the first bid-per-unit cost submitted in 2005.
Sea Power, Feb 2007
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa37...02/ai_n18708915
The Republic of the Philippines will rebid its Multi-Purpose Attack Craft program. The program calls for the construction and delivery of three patrol craft to the Philippine Navy in 270 days. Total funding authorized for the program is $4.42 million.
The program was initially bid in 2005, with the low bidder being Maritime Partners of Norway at $2.6 million to cover the costs of two craft. However, the program never proceeded past that point until the rebid documents became public again in late 2006.
Funding for the new bid is $1.47 million per unit, slightly higher than the first bid-per-unit cost submitted in 2005.
minortremor - May 16, 2007 11:54 PM (GMT)
what type of attack craft are these? missile boats?
Duminus - May 17, 2007 03:22 AM (GMT)
Numbers - May 17, 2007 05:15 AM (GMT)
minortremor:
the MPAC is basically 15-meter fast patrol boat armed only with machine guns
The 15-meter FPB is employed in many countries as a police patrol craft
It should be more or less similar to the Plascoa 15-meter boat:
the MPAC is basically 15-meter fast patrol boat armed only with machine guns
The 15-meter FPB is employed in many countries as a police patrol craft
It should be more or less similar to the Plascoa 15-meter boat:
saver111 - May 17, 2007 07:55 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE |
| new bid is $1.47 million per unit |
How about this opportunity at the loss of a sovereign state
| QUOTE |
| Two available now at £410,000 each. Custom built for soveriegn state for naval interdiction. Their currency drastically devalued so "their loss is your opportunity" - buy now! Hull Form : Planning hull – Deep Vee Monohull Length (Loa) : 12.65 m. Beam (B) : 3.60 m. (at midship) Draft (D) : 0.75 m. (full load) Height (D) : 1.80 m. (at midship) Fuel Capacity (approx.) : 1700 Lit. Watertight Bulkhead : 4 Cabin Height : 1.85 m. Max. Speed (approx.) : 45 Mile Per Hour Cont. Speed (approx.) : 40 Mile Per Hour Endurance (approx.) : 300 mile DWT : 1250 kg Accommodations : 12 seat in cabin 4 seat on the aft deck Crew : 2 persons Environment : Fully operational up to sea state 2 Class : Dual Class (RINA & Turkish Lloyd) Class Notation : 100 / A / 1.1 Y Standards : SOLAS 74, IMO, ISO, TSE, NATO STANAGS Propulsion Engine Maker : CATERPILLAR - USA Model : 3196 TA – E Rating Power : 2 x 492 KW ( 2x 669 HP) @ 2300 rpm Gear Box Maker : ZF – Germany / Italy Model : IRM 312 TS (Two Speed) Reduction : 1:195 – 1 : 1.432 Drives : ZF Trimax 2200 I Propeller : SST; 6 blades; ROLLA Electrical Rectifier : VICTRON – SKYLLA 220 V AC, 50 Hz., 1 Phase (input) 24 V AC (output) Cables : Marine Type Batteries : 2 x 200 A. Starter, 2 x 200 A. Service Fire Fighting Devices : Remote Controlled CO2 System in Engine Room Minimaxes : 4 x 1 kg. At Cabin and Cockpit Navigation Radar : JRC Scan Radar GPS : SIMRAD GPS (Plotter Chart) – CP 32 Fluxgate Compass : SIMRAD – RFC 35 NMEA Compass Communication Marine brand VHF : SAILOR – RT 2048 / D (DUBLEX & SIMPLEX) Weapons Weapon Foundations : Telescopic at both sides at rear for M-60 This boat has been designed for; - To accomplish the patrol mission various objectives, - To transport the military personnel to the operation area. This boat is designed for to be transported via air by plane or helicopter and via land by a trailer to the operation area. This boat has been constructed as follows; - Single deck, - Sharp and curved bow, perpendicular transom. - Fore peak, chain locker under the deck, - Bow cofferdam, - Transom cofferdam, - Bow ballast tanks, - Personnel cabin, - Fuel tanks compartment (between two bulk heads), - Engine room; above aft deck , - Aft peak and rudder section. Ship Building Specification of this boat covers all technical aspects for the abovementioned objectives and performance. These technical aspects generally covers all ship building rules, standards, criteria, see keeping, construction, equipment and material. Design application, project management and high quality workmanship. During the design aspect and material selection, high reliance and low maintenance has been paramount. During the design, construction and production phase of the boat, the following rules and standards has been applied; · RINA and Turkish Lloyd (Dual Class) · TSE · IMO · ISO · SOLAS 74 · NATO (Navy) STANAGS The project drawings had been approved by RINA, and construction and production had been surveyed by RINA and Turkish Lloyd (Dual Clas), and the boat has been certified 100 / A / 1.1 / Y class notification Status: Available Price: £410,000 |
http://commercial.apolloduck.com/feature.phtml?id=44221
USD1,470,000 = £740,439 +/-
A lot of savings there for more equipments or even another boat.
BTW, they also put 2 of these for sale a couple of months ago for £650,000 each, still way below the budget.
Looks familiar? I wonder how our NSOG guys would feel? :aberet:
didu - May 17, 2007 09:24 AM (GMT)
are those brand new sir? maybe not.
i believe this bid is for brand new boats only.
Im in Cebu and there are shipyards here that I believe can easily build a 15metre boat, why not tap them? Its probably cheaper.
i believe this bid is for brand new boats only.
Im in Cebu and there are shipyards here that I believe can easily build a 15metre boat, why not tap them? Its probably cheaper.
saver111 - May 17, 2007 11:31 AM (GMT)
I believe these units are newly built but purchase did not pushed thru as indicated above due to currency devaluation of the state who ordered it.
As for the MK V, it's been used by PMCs guarding oil flatforms in Iraq.
As has been discussed before in some threads here, I agree on proposals for locally built boats. :thumb:
HOW ABOUT RP-MADE NAVAL VESSELS?, why not?
Commercial vessels to navy ships
As for the MK V, it's been used by PMCs guarding oil flatforms in Iraq.
As has been discussed before in some threads here, I agree on proposals for locally built boats. :thumb:
HOW ABOUT RP-MADE NAVAL VESSELS?, why not?
Commercial vessels to navy ships
Duminus - May 18, 2007 04:35 AM (GMT)
^^
PDFF has everything covered.
We may ran out of new topics to discuss soon.
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Didu, is right, the boat can be made in Cebu or in Subic, problem is, no local shipyard probably participated in the bid since they are busy making far larger boats and ships. :armywink:
PDFF has everything covered.
We may ran out of new topics to discuss soon.
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Didu, is right, the boat can be made in Cebu or in Subic, problem is, no local shipyard probably participated in the bid since they are busy making far larger boats and ships. :armywink:
Sentinel - May 19, 2007 11:56 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (saver111 @ May 17 2007, 07:31 PM) |
| I believe these units are newly built but purchase did not pushed thru as indicated above due to currency devaluation of the state who ordered it. As for the MK V, it's been used by PMCs guarding oil flatforms in Iraq. As has been discussed before in some threads here, I agree on proposals for locally built boats. :thumb: HOW ABOUT RP-MADE NAVAL VESSELS?, why not? Commercial vessels to navy ships |
Now that the Philippine Peso has reached new heights would be the ideal time to purchase materiel.
Zero wing - July 1, 2007 08:34 AM (GMT)
Ya other boat that rust on the seaside
flipzi - July 7, 2008 08:40 AM (GMT)
with the unabated poaching, and the sad fact that the boats were still able to escape, i suggest we need FASTER boats now.
read on please;
this boat is a good concept. the optronic-controlled 25mm-30mm Rafale gun on it would be awesome.
Super Dvora Mk II
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/nav...uperDvora2.html
The Super Dvora Mk. II is a high performance purpose-designed fast patrol and attack craft (FPC), and remains one of the most capable in the world today. Following on the experience gained in earlier generations of fast patrol craft designed and built by IAI-Ramta and including the Dabur, Shapirit, Dvora and Super Dvora Mk. I, classes of FPC, the Super Dvora Mk. II incorporates more than 25 years of experience gained in combat and peacetime operation in the Israel Navy and other navies around the globe.
The Super Dvora Mk. II has been used on numerous missions worldwide during which it has demonstrated considerable endurance, payload carrying capability, stability and maneuvering ability.
To see video about this weapon click here.
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High-Speed Patrol and Attack Craft
As the latest generation of the operationally proven Super Dvora family now in the water, the Super Dvora Mk. II is capable of performing all-weather littoral/brown water surveillance, search and rescue missions, policing duties (detection, interception and interdiction of maritime pirates, terrorists, smugglers, fugitives and other suspects), as well as increased "blue water" naval operations within a broader, complex set of roles and missions in conjunction with other air, sea and land-based forces.
In January 2002, the Israel Navy again chose IAI-Ramta and the Super Dvora platform as its next generation fast patrol and interdiction craft. In this program, IAI-Ramta will build six of the latest generation fast patrol boats, and holds options for five more. This, the Super Dvora Mk III version of the craft, is now in construction at IAI-Ramta and will be launched in the near future. In addition, the company is currently negotiating several new contracts expected to generate additional sales in 2003.
Super Dvora Technical Overview
The Super Dvora Mk. II high-speed patrol craft is a state-of-the-art purpose-designed platform based on the combat-proven Super Dvora family, and excels in the performance of a variety of naval missions from typical off-shore coastal patrol mission profiles to high-speed, high-maneuver littoral warfare. The ship's hull geometry and layout, main and auxiliary systems and performance characteristics have been carefully chosen to suit operational and economic parameters prioritized by specific naval customers, but with sufficient built-in flexibility to enable the adaptation of the above to other operators' unique requirements and operating environments.
The 23-25m long, 5.7m breadth, 1.1m mean draft 50-65t Super Dvora Mk. II and Mk. III utilizes a well-proven marine aluminum alloy planing hull of proportions capable of maintaining high standards of sea-keeping, maneuverability and static/dynamic intact/damaged stability in adverse environments.
Power Packs and Surface Piercing Propellers
The craft is offered with a range of power packs and a choice of surface piercing propellers driven by TDI ASD16 surface drives or water-jet propulsion systems depending on specific customer preferences or choice.
Correct matching of hull, power pack and propulsor permit the ship commander to choose between a very fast (45-52 knot) "sprint" (interception) speed, and extended loitering/cruising speeds and beach-landing requirements. Range/endurance is a 700 nautical mile radius, but can be altered to suit specific requirements.
The boat's configuration provides flexibility in equipment layout and support for various roles and missions, including the over-side lifting/deploying of assault/commando/police craft and beach landing capability.
Craft Operation
The craft is operated from one of three air-conditioned control stations (open bridge, closed bridge, engine/steering compartments) and has a low silhouette, above-deck profile.
The craft can be operated by a minimum of three crew, but has air-conditioned bunk accommodations for up to ten or 12 crew (on duty, off duty), in seven separate watertight below-deck. Other passengers (i.e. naval/coast guard personnel; arrested or detained suspects; or rescued survivors from a marine accident) can be accommodated below deck for specific periods of time.
Robust Design For Weapons Installation
The Super Dvora Mk. II and Super Dvora Mk. III design is robust to allow for the installation of Typhoon 25-30mm stabilized cannon, light or heavy machine guns, all of which can be slaved to state-of the art mast-mounted, day/night, long range electro-optic systems.
The relatively high mast can be folded to allow overland transport of the craft by standard transporter.
Communication, Navigation, Surveillance and Targeting
State-of-the-art external/internal communication systems, navigation and day/night long-range surveillance and targeting suites can be provided according to specific customer specifications.
Precision Anti-Ship Weapon Systems
Additionally, in its naval attack mode, IAI-Ramta is currently working a number of new configurations for the flexible Super Dvora platform, among them the "Strike" version, or "Littoral Warrior", equipped with a variety of very advanced precision weapon systems.
read on please;
this boat is a good concept. the optronic-controlled 25mm-30mm Rafale gun on it would be awesome.
Super Dvora Mk II
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/nav...uperDvora2.html
The Super Dvora Mk. II is a high performance purpose-designed fast patrol and attack craft (FPC), and remains one of the most capable in the world today. Following on the experience gained in earlier generations of fast patrol craft designed and built by IAI-Ramta and including the Dabur, Shapirit, Dvora and Super Dvora Mk. I, classes of FPC, the Super Dvora Mk. II incorporates more than 25 years of experience gained in combat and peacetime operation in the Israel Navy and other navies around the globe.
The Super Dvora Mk. II has been used on numerous missions worldwide during which it has demonstrated considerable endurance, payload carrying capability, stability and maneuvering ability.
To see video about this weapon click here.
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High-Speed Patrol and Attack Craft
As the latest generation of the operationally proven Super Dvora family now in the water, the Super Dvora Mk. II is capable of performing all-weather littoral/brown water surveillance, search and rescue missions, policing duties (detection, interception and interdiction of maritime pirates, terrorists, smugglers, fugitives and other suspects), as well as increased "blue water" naval operations within a broader, complex set of roles and missions in conjunction with other air, sea and land-based forces.
In January 2002, the Israel Navy again chose IAI-Ramta and the Super Dvora platform as its next generation fast patrol and interdiction craft. In this program, IAI-Ramta will build six of the latest generation fast patrol boats, and holds options for five more. This, the Super Dvora Mk III version of the craft, is now in construction at IAI-Ramta and will be launched in the near future. In addition, the company is currently negotiating several new contracts expected to generate additional sales in 2003.
Super Dvora Technical Overview
The Super Dvora Mk. II high-speed patrol craft is a state-of-the-art purpose-designed platform based on the combat-proven Super Dvora family, and excels in the performance of a variety of naval missions from typical off-shore coastal patrol mission profiles to high-speed, high-maneuver littoral warfare. The ship's hull geometry and layout, main and auxiliary systems and performance characteristics have been carefully chosen to suit operational and economic parameters prioritized by specific naval customers, but with sufficient built-in flexibility to enable the adaptation of the above to other operators' unique requirements and operating environments.
The 23-25m long, 5.7m breadth, 1.1m mean draft 50-65t Super Dvora Mk. II and Mk. III utilizes a well-proven marine aluminum alloy planing hull of proportions capable of maintaining high standards of sea-keeping, maneuverability and static/dynamic intact/damaged stability in adverse environments.
Power Packs and Surface Piercing Propellers
The craft is offered with a range of power packs and a choice of surface piercing propellers driven by TDI ASD16 surface drives or water-jet propulsion systems depending on specific customer preferences or choice.
Correct matching of hull, power pack and propulsor permit the ship commander to choose between a very fast (45-52 knot) "sprint" (interception) speed, and extended loitering/cruising speeds and beach-landing requirements. Range/endurance is a 700 nautical mile radius, but can be altered to suit specific requirements.
The boat's configuration provides flexibility in equipment layout and support for various roles and missions, including the over-side lifting/deploying of assault/commando/police craft and beach landing capability.
Craft Operation
The craft is operated from one of three air-conditioned control stations (open bridge, closed bridge, engine/steering compartments) and has a low silhouette, above-deck profile.
The craft can be operated by a minimum of three crew, but has air-conditioned bunk accommodations for up to ten or 12 crew (on duty, off duty), in seven separate watertight below-deck. Other passengers (i.e. naval/coast guard personnel; arrested or detained suspects; or rescued survivors from a marine accident) can be accommodated below deck for specific periods of time.
Robust Design For Weapons Installation
The Super Dvora Mk. II and Super Dvora Mk. III design is robust to allow for the installation of Typhoon 25-30mm stabilized cannon, light or heavy machine guns, all of which can be slaved to state-of the art mast-mounted, day/night, long range electro-optic systems.
The relatively high mast can be folded to allow overland transport of the craft by standard transporter.
Communication, Navigation, Surveillance and Targeting
State-of-the-art external/internal communication systems, navigation and day/night long-range surveillance and targeting suites can be provided according to specific customer specifications.
Precision Anti-Ship Weapon Systems
Additionally, in its naval attack mode, IAI-Ramta is currently working a number of new configurations for the flexible Super Dvora platform, among them the "Strike" version, or "Littoral Warrior", equipped with a variety of very advanced precision weapon systems.
flipzi - July 7, 2008 08:41 AM (GMT)
This is great. Fast Craft with an automated 25mm or 30mm gun.
saver111 - July 7, 2008 10:07 AM (GMT)
Isn't it the Sri Lankan Navy has some of these? I remember some were sunk by the Tamils Sea Tigers using suicide boats.
BTW, a similar dicussion about the
Super Dvora
BTW, a similar dicussion about the
Super Dvora
spearhead - July 8, 2008 02:26 AM (GMT)
Ano na ba ang latest prchase ng philippine nay natin?
flipzi - July 8, 2008 06:08 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (spearhead @ Jul 8 2008, 10:26 AM) |
| Ano na ba ang latest prchase ng philippine nay natin? |
as per teh Navy website, the most interesting project is the MULTI-PURPOSE ATTACK CRAFT (MPAC) with the some of specs below;
| QUOTE |
| Item Statement of Compliance B.1 The Multi-Purpose Attack Craft (MPAC) should have the ability to sustain speed of at least 30 knots to cover a minimum distance of 300 nautical miles of continuous operation, and a loiter speed of 10 knots. B.2 It should be able to operate day and night up to sea state 3 at head-on seas without systems degradation. B.3 It must have agile maneuverability and can operate in shallow salt or fresh water environment of less than one (1) fathom depth. B.4 It must have a low profile stealth design construction and low engine noise level both at loiter and at full speed operation. B.5 It must be able to carry at least sixteen (16) fully equipped troops or at least two (2) tons of payloads. B.6 It must be capable of forced amphibious landing on sandy and/or rocky beaches. C. Principal Characteristics Item Statement of Compliance C.1 Length Waterline -15 meters + 10 % C.2 Beam -Function of design C.3 Draught (Draft) -Less than one (1) meter |
The CB90 boats fit the specs.
flipzi - July 8, 2008 06:18 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (saver111 @ Jul 7 2008, 06:07 PM) |
| Isn't it the Sri Lankan Navy has some of these? I remember some were sunk by the Tamils Sea Tigers using suicide boats. BTW, a similar dicussion about the Super Dvora |
Thanks, Saver.
So there's version III already. This one has the 25-30mm Rafale gun already. This is what we need in stopping the poaching and illegal entry.
| QUOTE |
| This next-generation naval craft is the product of a two-year joint development effort between the ISN and IAI/Ramta naval architects and design engineers who worked together to tailor the craft to the exacting requirements of the ISN's operational needs. |
Those Rafale Typhoon guns are simply awesome.
| QUOTE |
| The Super Dvora Mk. II and Super Dvora Mk. III design is robust to allow for the installation of Typhoon 25-30mm stabilized cannon, light or heavy machine guns, all of which can be slaved to state-of the art mast-mounted, day/night, long range electro-optic systems. |
BTW, other versions of the gun;
Typhoon GSA
Gun and Surface to Air Missile Launchers
Typhhon GS
Gun and Surface to Surface (Spike-ER) Missiles
MORE HERE on the RAFALE TYPHOON GUN
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/nav...on/Typhoon.html
adrian_yamato - July 8, 2008 03:38 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (flipzi @ Jul 8 2008, 02:18 PM) | ||||
Thanks, Saver. So there's version III already. This one has the 25-30mm Rafale gun already. This is what we need in stopping the poaching and illegal entry.
Those Rafale Typhoon guns are simply awesome. BTW, other versions of the gun; Typhoon GSA Gun and Surface to Air Missile Launchers Typhhon GS Gun and Surface to Surface (Spike-ER) Missiles MORE HERE on the RAFALE TYPHOON GUN http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/nav...on/Typhoon.html |
flipzi, all i can say is : WOW
Pero sayang yung gamit ng Sri Lanka, all end up sunk by Sea Tigers: If that dvora is in the Philippine hands: Mahihirapan sa atin sea tigers cause our Navy knows how to defend it's boat
At saka parang kulang ang training ng Sri Lanka Navy in terms of defence maneuver, di kasi nila nagamit ng tama yung dvora. sayang talaga.
adrian_yamato - July 9, 2008 04:26 PM (GMT)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-ZEAWrlegI
look at this:
Wish it will never happen to us, If ever: it will be a big headache to our Government
look at this:
Wish it will never happen to us, If ever: it will be a big headache to our Government
flipzi - July 10, 2008 02:52 AM (GMT)
Here is the video,.. entitled "LTTE sea tigers sink israeli-made dvora FAC"
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The Navy's FAC, which looked like the older Dvora FAC (unguided gun), was sank maybe because it got outmanuevered, outnumbered and outgunned.
The seaborned Tamil got what seems to be a bazzoka in their boat, while the Navy could only rely on the unguided gun. Outflanked, the Navy lost.
This suggest that we the new DVora FAC with the automated gun or the 25-30 mm Rafale Typhoon gun.
The FAC must alsoi have the needed suites for night engagements as well as the radar and if possible the sonar.
The automated gun will enable the FAC to react fast enough and shoot accurately. Without it, when the battle gets rough, the outnumbered and outgunned FAC will eventually succumb to the overwhelming odds.
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The Navy's FAC, which looked like the older Dvora FAC (unguided gun), was sank maybe because it got outmanuevered, outnumbered and outgunned.
The seaborned Tamil got what seems to be a bazzoka in their boat, while the Navy could only rely on the unguided gun. Outflanked, the Navy lost.
This suggest that we the new DVora FAC with the automated gun or the 25-30 mm Rafale Typhoon gun.
The FAC must alsoi have the needed suites for night engagements as well as the radar and if possible the sonar.
The automated gun will enable the FAC to react fast enough and shoot accurately. Without it, when the battle gets rough, the outnumbered and outgunned FAC will eventually succumb to the overwhelming odds.
adrian_yamato - July 10, 2008 06:36 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (flipzi @ Jul 10 2008, 10:52 AM) |
| Here is the video,.. entitled "LTTE sea tigers sink israeli-made dvora FAC" [dohtml]<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Q-ZEAWrlegI&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Q-ZEAWrlegI&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>[/dohtml] The Navy's FAC, which looked like the older Dvora FAC (unguided gun), was sank maybe because it got outmanuevered, outnumbered and outgunned. The seaborned Tamil got what seems to be a bazzoka in their boat, while the Navy could only rely on the unguided gun. Outflanked, the Navy lost. This suggest that we the new DVora FAC with the automated gun or the 25-30 mm Rafale Typhoon gun. The FAC must alsoi have the needed suites for night engagements as well as the radar and if possible the sonar. The automated gun will enable the FAC to react fast enough and shoot accurately. Without it, when the battle gets rough, the outnumbered and outgunned FAC will eventually succumb to the overwhelming odds. |
Grabe talaga!!!!! TSK..TSK...TSK...
How the hell they're getting those type of boats? Bagal din pala ng Intel ng Sri Lanka. Kung mabagal tayo, mas mabagal ang sa kanila
BTW, Flipzi ,paano mo na-post iyang video? help naman oh
flipzi - July 10, 2008 07:53 AM (GMT)
The Dvora III, with the automated 30mm gun, is a deadly boat.
You must use excellent tactic and strategy to make it work for you though,
As for the video, sorry but it's for the mod team only. But I can help you post it for you. Just give me the link and i'll edit it.
You must use excellent tactic and strategy to make it work for you though,
As for the video, sorry but it's for the mod team only. But I can help you post it for you. Just give me the link and i'll edit it.
Zero wing - July 16, 2008 07:08 PM (GMT)
Hey guys i have a question can it mass produce here if we get the rights to it and tech transfer too?
bustero - July 23, 2008 02:19 PM (GMT)
Yes but the PN may not neccesarily be saving a lot of money.
The CB 90s bid should has passed notice of award so it won't be too long for delivery.
The super dvora is very nice boat but it's got very short legs. I'd prefer something that has blue water capability since our area is huge and the boats few and far between.
The CB 90s bid should has passed notice of award so it won't be too long for delivery.
The super dvora is very nice boat but it's got very short legs. I'd prefer something that has blue water capability since our area is huge and the boats few and far between.
pachador - July 23, 2008 07:05 PM (GMT)
...........
pachador - July 23, 2008 07:08 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (bustero @ Jul 23 2008, 10:19 PM) |
| Yes but the PN may not neccesarily be saving a lot of money. The CB 90s bid should has passed notice of award so it won't be too long for delivery. The super dvora is very nice boat but it's got very short legs. I'd prefer something that has blue water capability since our area is huge and the boats few and far between. |
the money for the MPAC project was always available. funding by DOE(energy Dept) but this project encountered red tape and "tong" thats why it was re-bidded according to an AFP personnel.
CB-90 or something similar is the preferred choice of the PN.
victor - July 26, 2008 04:13 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (pachador @ Jul 24 2008, 03:08 AM) | ||
the money for the MPAC project was always available. funding by DOE(energy Dept) but this project encountered red tape and "tong" thats why it was re-bidded according to an AFP personnel. CB-90 or something similar is the preferred choice of the PN. |
I think we need a lot of CB 90series or Super Dvora MK II to guard our Mlampaya reservoir. We must secure the area from terrorist or creepers from coming in.. In my opinion we should look for the best and eliminate redtapes in sourcing out the best equipment for our littoral defense.
zundino - July 27, 2008 05:58 AM (GMT)
nothing new came out of the rebid?
adroth - July 27, 2008 07:17 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (zundino @ Jul 26 2008, 09:58 PM) |
| nothing new came out of the rebid? |
As of June 25, 2008, a Notice of Award had already been issued. The boats are coming.
pachador - July 27, 2008 04:13 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (zundino @ Jul 27 2008, 01:58 PM) |
| nothing new came out of the rebid? |
funding for the mpac was always there courtesy of the dept of energy for guarding malampaya. the reason the bidding was delayed and got put-off was because certain people wanted to get a piece of the pie aka tong. this is not my opinion but from a friend who was involved in the mpac bidding. its good that the awarding finally took place after a long wait.
Vermonter - July 29, 2008 05:21 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (pachador @ Jul 28 2008, 12:13 AM) |
| funding for the mpac was always there courtesy of the dept of energy for guarding malampaya. the reason the bidding was delayed and got put-off was because certain people wanted to get a piece of the pie aka tong. this is not my opinion but from a friend who was involved in the mpac bidding. its good that the awarding finally took place after a long wait. |
So did the Swedes win?
pachador - July 31, 2008 12:07 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Vermonter @ Jul 30 2008, 01:21 AM) |
| So did the Swedes win? |
no comment this time at baka malas. strange things have happened before.
asianbloodline187 - August 1, 2008 10:00 AM (GMT)
Di ko ma-upload ung pic, bigay ko nalang ung link..
http://www.yonca-onuk.com/images_800/tekneler/mtp_33.jpg
Mrtp-33 Turkish fast attack boat..
baka pwede natin pakiusapan si Ylmas Bektas d2, hehe..
asianbloodline187 - August 1, 2008 10:20 AM (GMT)
asianbloodline187 - August 1, 2008 06:57 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Vermonter @ Jul 30 2008, 01:21 AM) |
| So did the Swedes win? |
What did the swedes offered??
Vermonter - August 3, 2008 11:34 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (asianbloodline187 @ Aug 2 2008, 02:57 AM) |
| What did the swedes offered?? |
CB90 light assault craft.
asianbloodline187 - August 3, 2008 04:46 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Vermonter @ Aug 3 2008, 07:34 PM) | ||
CB90 light assault craft. |
I saw a pic of CB-90 being opersated by the philippine navy in manila bay(i just forgot the link), what was that? I thought the navy already awarded that contracts to the swedes... hmmmm..
panzerkampfwagen - August 4, 2008 12:04 AM (GMT)
CB90 Looks deadly. Very nice. :thumb:
Sana naman missile corvettes o missile frigates ang susunod na i-bid ng Philippine Navy.
Magandang patrol craft ito kaso langgam lang ito kung haharapin siya ng mga Destroyer ng PLA Navy. :armyeek:
strikeeagle - August 4, 2008 02:21 AM (GMT)
I hope we can get Visby.....ok na ok to para sa PN. :ssalute:
adrian_yamato - August 4, 2008 05:46 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (asianbloodline187 @ Aug 4 2008, 12:46 AM) | ||||
I saw a pic of CB-90 being opersated by the philippine navy in manila bay(i just forgot the link), what was that? I thought the navy already awarded that contracts to the swedes... hmmmm.. |
www.pn.mil.ph, try mo, pero may link din dito. :thumb:
kingkong - April 27, 2009 06:00 AM (GMT)
Chamsuri class patrol vessels are patrol craft that entered service with the South Korean navy (South Korea) in the 70s. These were built by the Hanjin Industrial SB, Chinhae, and Korea SB & Eng. Masan shipyards.[1]
These boats, also referred to as "PKM", were built in two batches: the 201 series, and the 301 series. Early PKM 201 series boats were initially armed with 1 40-mm Bofors 60-cal Mk.3; 1 twin 30-mm 75-cal Emerlec EX-30; 2 single 20-mm 70-cal. Mk. 10 AA. Late PKM 201 boats were armed with 1 twin 30mm 75-cal Emerlec EX-30 AA; 1 or 2 single 20-mm Vulcan gatling AA; 2 single 12.7-mm machine guns. The PKM 301 boats were armed with 1 40mm 60-cal Bofors AA in a fully enclosed mount; 2 single 20-mm Vulcan gatling AA; 2 single 12.7mm machine guns.[1]
As newer, more capable patrol craft enter South Korean navy service, the Chamsuri class boats are slowly being retired
PKM fast attack crafts
These boats, also referred to as "PKM", were built in two batches: the 201 series, and the 301 series. Early PKM 201 series boats were initially armed with 1 40-mm Bofors 60-cal Mk.3; 1 twin 30-mm 75-cal Emerlec EX-30; 2 single 20-mm 70-cal. Mk. 10 AA. Late PKM 201 boats were armed with 1 twin 30mm 75-cal Emerlec EX-30 AA; 1 or 2 single 20-mm Vulcan gatling AA; 2 single 12.7-mm machine guns. The PKM 301 boats were armed with 1 40mm 60-cal Bofors AA in a fully enclosed mount; 2 single 20-mm Vulcan gatling AA; 2 single 12.7mm machine guns.[1]
As newer, more capable patrol craft enter South Korean navy service, the Chamsuri class boats are slowly being retired
PKM fast attack crafts