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pachador - July 31, 2008 12:05 AM (GMT)
The PN is asking for bids on a 189 million peso LCU project.

A Cebu shipbuilder is one of the bidders.

good luck to the winner !

Fallen Angel - September 28, 2008 12:50 PM (GMT)
What are the specs for the LCU Sir pachador?, is this similar to the old LST of the Navy?

boybim - September 29, 2008 02:35 AM (GMT)
Its of course smaller than any LST, The LCU is the next smaller sized variant. Next will be the LCM. tHe WW2 LST's are the larget assets we have, next is the LSV Besson Class. The largest would be an LPD, of which reportedly the PN is eyeing an immediate procurement insertion through the current CUP program. The LCU will be for tansport on shorter routes of ports, the LST is used interisland long routes. The BRP Benguet that i saw last June at the port of Ormoc is now on its way again to zamboanga for supplies. Tons of amunition and 22 APC's are among the cargo of goodies. :fire:

pachador - September 29, 2008 05:59 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Fallen Angel @ Sep 28 2008, 08:50 PM)
What are the specs for the LCU Sir pachador?, is this similar to the old LST of the Navy?

at a bidding start of 4 million dollars(189 million pesos), this LCU is just a bare bones LCU. one of the cebu shipbuilders is a bidder. if my memory is right the LCU will has a minimum length of 45 meters yata. Dont be surprised though if the winning bidder will come up with an innovative unique design that is still cheap departing from the traditional US navy LCU style.





Fallen Angel - September 29, 2008 07:29 AM (GMT)
Thanks for the info sirs boybim and pachador.

I hope the Cebu bidder wins. It will be a showcase of local shipbuilding prowess.


panzerkampfwagen - September 30, 2008 01:58 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Fallen Angel @ Sep 29 2008, 03:29 PM)
Thanks for the info sirs boybim and pachador.

I hope the Cebu bidder wins. It will be a showcase of local shipbuilding prowess.

ya, I agree :thumb:

Go go Pinas! :patrioticpinoy:

pachador - September 30, 2008 11:17 PM (GMT)
LCU project movement is postponed for the 3rd time na yata this time to oct 9 :lollol: :lollol:

This is good comedy news.

pachador - October 7, 2008 06:22 PM (GMT)
The LCU project bid opening has been postponed once again this time to October 16, 2008. Just check the DND site. :lollol: :lollol:

I hope they keep postponing it many more times so we can win the Guiness book of records for most number of bid postponements. :lollol:


boybim - October 8, 2008 03:06 AM (GMT)
or else, do a direct negotiated procurement after 3 failed tries. Thats the Procurement Law.There are many capable local shipbuilders that the PN can go directly. We have Aboitiz-Tsuneishi here in Cebu, We have Hanjin in Subic, and a local company in Cavite :fire:

pachador - October 8, 2008 06:00 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (boybim @ Oct 8 2008, 11:06 AM)
or else, do a direct negotiated procurement after 3 failed tries. Thats the Procurement Law.There are many capable local shipbuilders that the PN can go directly. We have Aboitiz-Tsuneishi here in Cebu, We have Hanjin in Subic, and a local company in Cavite :fire:

ahhh, good idea.

mazingu - October 10, 2008 01:02 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (boybim @ Oct 8 2008, 11:06 AM)
or else, do a direct negotiated procurement after 3 failed tries. Thats the Procurement Law.There are many capable local shipbuilders that the PN can go directly. We have Aboitiz-Tsuneishi here in Cebu, We have Hanjin in Subic, and a local company in Cavite :fire:

Negotiated procurement is one of the severely abused transactions in government with some agencies (notably DepEd, DPWH, DoH) actually set-up bid failures for this then negotiate kickbacks with the preferred supplier/contractor.

The new DND mantra of transparency under Sec. Teodoro hopefully will prevent similar practice.

asianbloodline187 - October 12, 2008 04:44 PM (GMT)

So, whats the latest? :drunk:

pachador - October 15, 2008 05:25 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (asianbloodline187 @ Oct 13 2008, 12:44 AM)
So, whats the latest? :drunk:

hehehe, the bidding has been moved again to October 23, 2008 (see DND website). Like I said , we are on track to win the Guiness book of records for most number of times a bidding was postponed. hehehe. Lets hope they keep postponing it.
:banana:

kingkong - April 27, 2009 05:44 AM (GMT)
The BRP Dagupan City (LC-551) is the second and last ship of two Bacolod City class of Logistics Support Vessel, and is based on a helicopter capable variant of the US Army Frank S. Besson class. She is also considered as one of the most modern transport ships in the Philippine Navy, having been commissioned during the early 1990s.

BRP Dagupan city

Propulsion: 2 x GM EMD 16V-645E6 diesel engines
Speed: 12 Knots (maximum), 10 knots (sustained)
Range: 8,300 nmi at 10 knots
Boats and landing
craft carried: 2 LCVPs on davits
Capacity: 2,280 tons (900 tons for amphibious operations) of vehicles, containers or cargo, plus 150 troops
Complement: (30) 6 - Officers/ 24 - Enlisted Personnel
Sensors and
processing systems: Raytheon SPS-64(V)2 I-band Navigation Radar[1]

Armament: 2 x 20 mm Oerlikon Mk10 cannons

2 x 7.62 mm general purpose machine guns[2]

Aviation facilities: Helipad at aft deck

kingkong - April 27, 2009 05:48 AM (GMT)
Installed power: 5,800 hp
Propulsion: 2 x GM EMD 16V-645E6 diesel engines
Speed: 12 Knots (maximum), 10 knots (sustained)
Range: 8,300 nmi at 10 knots
Boats and landing
craft carried: 2 LCVPs on davits
Capacity: 2,280 tons (900 tons for amphibious operations) of vehicles, containers or cargo, plus 150 troops
Complement: (30) 6 - Officers/ 24 - Enlisted Personnel
Sensors and
processing systems: Raytheon SPS-64(V)2 I-band Navigation Radar[1]

Armament: 2 x 20 mm Oerlikon Mk10 cannons

2 x 7.62 mm general purpose machine guns[2]

Aircraft carried: 1 MBB Bo 105 helicopter
Aviation facilities: Helipad at aft deck

BRP Bacolod city
The BRP Bacolod City (LC-550) is the lead ship of two Bacolod City class of Logistics Support Vessels, and is based on a helicopter capable variant of the US Army's Frank S. Besson class. She is also considered as one of the most modern transport ships in the Philippine Navy, having been commissioned during the early 1990s.



kingkong - April 27, 2009 05:51 AM (GMT)
Class and type: LST-542-class tank landing ship
Displacement: 1,780 long tons (1,809 t) light
3,640 long tons (3,698 t) full
Length: 328 ft (100 m)
Beam: 50 ft (15 m)
Draft: Unloaded :
2 ft 4 in (0.71 m) forward
7 ft 6 in (2.3 m) aft
Loaded :
8 ft 2 in (2.5 m) forward
14 ft 1 in (4.3 m) aft
Propulsion: 2 × General Motors 12-567 diesel engines, two shafts, twin rudders
Speed: 12 knots (22 km/h; 14 mph)
Boats and landing
craft carried: 2 LCVPs
Troops: Approximately 140 officers and enlisted men
Complement: 8-10 officers, 100-115 enlisted men
Armament: • 1 × single 3"/50 caliber gun mount
• 8 × 40 mm guns
• 12 × 20 mm guns

BRP Benguet

pachador - May 13, 2009 07:25 PM (GMT)
The PN LCU project scheduled bid submission and opening has been postponed so many times, it qualifies for the Guiness book of records. Here is a sample of the dates for scheduled bid submission and opening:
Nov 20
dec 4
dec 11
Feb 26
march 12
april 16
april 23
may 7

and this does not include all the previous dates. The excuse is that they want to make sure there is no corruption, but if thats the excuse then why the endless postponements. Even if May 7 is finally the last date, this bidding will qualify for the guiness book of records. I will email Guiness book of records to see if this bidding will qualify.

saver111 - May 14, 2009 07:47 AM (GMT)
Seems I'm seeing a "weather-weather lang phenomenon" typical of a government project. Waiting for the term of the incumbent to expire so new bids can be handled by choiced appointees. How many planned projects were either shelved or revised by newly assigned leader or commander in favor of their loyal supporters. :dunno:

raider1011 - September 21, 2009 07:52 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (pachador @ Sep 29 2008, 01:59 PM)
at a bidding start of 4 million dollars(189 million pesos), this LCU is just a bare bones LCU. one of the cebu shipbuilders is a bidder. if my memory is right the LCU will has a minimum length of 45 meters yata. Dont be surprised though if the winning bidder will come up with an innovative unique design that is still cheap departing from the traditional US navy LCU style.
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ADSB eyes GCC Navy contracts
posted on 30/04/2002

The new contracts include a Dh110 million (US$30 million) job for the Navy's Ghannatha project, which entails the construction of 12 Amphibious Transport Boats (ATB's) of 23 meters in length to transport combat troops at high speeds, and a Dh40 million (US$10.9 million) contract for building three 64-meter landing craft.

http://www.uaeinteract.com

April 2005
Oman Orders New 64-Meter Landing Craft

Abu Dhabi Shipbuilding (ADSB) of the United Arab Emirates announced Feb. 14 it had signed a contract with the Royal Navy of Oman (RNO) for the procurement of one 64-meter LCU. The contract for Project Mahmal is worth an estimated $4 million for the single unit that will be delivered to the RNO by early 2006.

The 64-meter LCU is an indigenous ADSB design powered by Caterpillar diesel engines, has a displacement of around 800 tons, and can carry up to 55 troops or 40 tons of cargo and equipment in lieu of troops. The United Arab Emirates Navy was the first customer for the 64-meter design and procured three units from 2001 through 2003. The RNO is the first foreign customer for the 64-meter design.

http://www.navyleague.org

These are old articles but, if the budget quoted is accurate (starting at "$4 million"?), that kind of money can go a long way. Imagine, the PN buying ships at Middle Eastern prices!

Vermonter - November 8, 2009 07:33 PM (GMT)
Any word yet?




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