According to US State Department...

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/FlashNewsStory....?FlashOID=24318

nakuu na man pow si condoleeza rice!

Well, they could be in for something but let us still not discount the fact that there are indeed cases of this that need to be addressed substantiallly.

For the PNP officials, whether "lower cases now" or just an exaggerated US statement, these abuses need to be stopped so that we can win back the support of the public.

No victim of any abuse is so insignificant or minor that we should ignore or shake the issue off that easy.

You! ....Yes, you guys, need to prove to the people that you are neither the soldiers or the goons of a government that is ruled by tyrants nor among the breed of a corrupt regime.

The stronger we emphasize the protection of civil rights ...

... the stronger the support and trust that the police organization will get from the people whom these rights are entitled to.

Sometimes these human rights advocates just listen to fairtale stories of human rights abuses allegedly committed by the military and the police, release them to the world statistic agency, then fed these to the international media.

One can admit that there are few isolated cases of these nature, but not to the extent so severe that prompted world attention. These exaggerated exercise can stimulate extremism and sow hatred to those barely innocent of the facts.

As already pointed out before and even in this thread alone, such claims are over exaggerated and can only come down to a few real cases where such abuses were trully commited.

Not all foreigners (especially those who are very familiar with the Philippines) are buying this. I am very sure a lot of you here already know that. Because if it were true, most of us would either be lingerring in prison right now or dead.

Then again, it's good that some foreign entity tries to blame us for such practices. This kind of falsified and over blown accusation will further keep us on our toes and find the sufficient facts to throw back at their faces! Mapapahiya lang din sila in the long run. :lollol: :lollol:

CHR: New PNP rule on police blotters violates right to information

GMANews.TV - Friday, November 7

MANILA, Philippines -The Commission on Human Rights (CHR) on Friday ordered the Philippine National Police (PNP) to "review, reexamine and recall" its new policy limiting media access to police blotters, saying it violates the right to information.

Radio dzBB's Mao dela Cruz reported that CHR chairwoman Leila de Lima questioned the PNP's arguments that the policy was meant to protect the privacy of complainants and suspects.

De Lima reminded the PNP hierarchy that the police blotter is considered a public document, and restricting access to it is a violation of the right to information which is enshrined in the Constitution.

She ordered the PNP to "review, reexamine and recall" portions of its policy, including that which required journalists to seek permission from "pertinent officers" to view the blotter's contents.

Earlier, PNP spokesman Chief Superintendent Nicanor Bartolome defended the blotter policy, saying it was merely "misunderstood."

Bartolome also said they are toying with the idea of a two-blotter system where a second blotter will be dedicated to cases with "confidential" information. - GMANews.TV

http://ph.news.yahoo.com/gma/20081107/tph-...rs-d6cd5cf.html

While it is true that a police blotter is a public document, it does'nt guarantee that it can be accessed by anybody anytime because most of the entries are complaints by complainants and allegations against persons which are still subject to investigation and evaluation by the prosecutors office prior to filing of appropriate criminal charges in court .

The subjects in the blotter are also protected by the constitution to be presumed innocent until proven otherwise. Exposure of their personal details may expose an accuse to public ridicule before even being tried in the court of law. This constitutional guarantee offsets the right of the media to be given full access to this public document.

The military cannot be run by men who are too stupid and dumb to fulfill their job.

The military cannot be run by men who cant do their job without sacrificing innocent human lives.

Why resort to violence?

The stars on their shoulders and their having graduated from PMA are worthless if they cant fulfill their job without violating human rights.

The President should act on this decisively and PUNISH THE GUILTY.

The alleged abuse by the MIG from the 10th ID should be investigated deeply. If this is found to be true, then the Division Commander should be relieved immediately and be punished!

This is command responsibility and the MIG will not simply act without the directive from the higher authorities.

If the investigation will not bring about positive results, or the truth and justice, then the government will, in a way, give absolute reason for Kumander Parago to take the judgement upon the MIG by himself.

Worse, since it is impossible to pinpoint the MIG unit responsible, then they will train their manhunt on the 10th ID commander.

His battallion of bodyguards will not be enough to protect every square inch of his body.

Worse, when the bullets unleashed by the anger of revenge starts shooting away, it will take along many souls of the innocent soldiers guarding the general.

The military should uphold justice at all times ... and must not resort to crime just to fulfill their job.

They must at all times respect the rule of law and BE CIVILIZED.

Every life must be protected.

Every human being must be treated in accordance with the rule of law.

Not the other way around.

Again i say, if the military is run by men who are too dumb and stupid to fulfill their job and cant do their job without violating human rights, then there will still be men who will take up arms just to seek justice in their own way.

All military officers must understand that resorting to "crime" or violating human rights in its dirtiest sense projects that the military is inutile and too dumb to realize what lawful strategies to take to defeat the enemy effectively.

The brutal murder of Rebelyn should not be left unresolved.

We must not let the guilty walk free and unpunished.

why are you sure that its the military who killed this daughter of a commie terr?

do you have proof?

or you are just one of the leftist whiners :headbang:

The obvious tells that military is behind it.

NOT TRUE?

THEN LET THE MILITARY PEOPLE INVOLVED HERE PROOVE THEIR INNOCENCE.

in a related news;

AFP denies involvement in murder of rebel leader's daughter
03/10/2009 | 10:43 PM

MANILA, Philippines - The military on Tuesday denied it has something to do with last week’s abduction and subsequent murder of a communist leader’s 20-year-old daughter in southern Philippines.

Armed Forces Civil Relations Service chief Brig. Gen. Gaudencio Pangilinan said the victims of the atrocities committed by New People’s Army (NPA) leader Leoncio Pitao alias Kumander Parago could be behind the murder of Rebelyn Pitao.

“There are a thousand and one groups that are angry at Parago,” Pangilinan said.

Parago is the head of the NPA’s Pulang Bagani Command.

Unidentified men snatched Rebelyn, a teacher, last Wednesday in Davao City. Her body was found the next day in Carmen town in Davao del Norte with multiple stab wounds.

Leftist organizations have blamed the military for the incident. Pitao himself has named at least four suspects in his daughter’s murder. They were Sgt. Adan Sulao and, Cpl. Alvin Bitang, both military men based in the region; and military assets Ben Tipait and one identified only as Pedragosa.

Pangilinan said among the atrocities committed by Pitao’s unit were murder and the destruction of private properties including plantations and construction firms.

“There are scores of people they’ve killed so we are not the only party who should be blamed for that” Pangilinan said.

Pitao’s group was also responsible for the kidnapping of Army Brig. Gen. Victor Obillo and his aide, Maj. Eduardo Montealto, in February 1999 in Baguio City. The two were released weeks later upon negotiations by non-government organizations. - GMANews.TV

http://www.gmanews.tv/story/152167/AFP-den...eaders-daughter

Question is;

DO THESE ALLEGED VICTIMS OF THE NPA HAVE THE NERVE TO CONFRONT THE NPA THIS WAY?

Also;

DOES THE MILITARY, ESPECIALLY THE INTEL UNITS, HAVE A CLEAN RECORD ON SUCH ABUSES?

an explanataion from the 10th ID Commander;

Pagpatay sa anak ng communist rebel leader sa Davao kinondena ng militar
03/07/2009 | 04:40 PM

Mariing kinondena ng 10th Infantry Division ng Philippine Army na nakabase sa Davao City ang ginawang pagdukot at pagpatay sa 20-anyos na anak na babae ng lider ng rebeldeng komunista na si Kumander Leoncio “Ka Parago" Pitao.

Tinawag ni Maj. Gen. Reynaldo Mapagu, commander of the 10th ID, na “dastardly act" at kagagawan ng mga kriminal ang pagdukot at pagpatay kay Rebelyn Pitao, isang guro sa Davao City.

Naniniwala umano si Mapagu na ‘law-abiding citizen’ si Pitao na pinili ang tahimik na buhay at pagtulong sa komunidad.

Tiniyak ng opisyal na tutulong ang Army sa pulisya sa imbestigasyon upang mabigyan ng katarungan si Pitao.

Pauwi na si Pitao, guro sa Saint Peter’s College sa Toril, Davao City, noong Miyerkules sa kanyang bahay sa Bago Gallera sa Talomo District nang dukutin ito ng mga armadong lalaki.

Kinabukasan (Huwebes) ay nakita ang kanyang mga labi sa bayan ng Carmen sa Davao del Sur na may mga saksak sa katawan.

Ayon kay Mapagu, nang malaman nila ang pagkawala ni Pitao ay nagpalabas kaagad siya ng direktiba sa mga field commanders na mag-imbestiga at alamin ang posibleng kinaroroonan ng guro.

Bumuo na rin ng task force ang Philippine National Police (PNP) upang malutas kaagad ang nangyari sa anak ni "Ka Parago."

Hinihinala ng mga militante at rebelde na ang pagpatay kay Pitao ay bahagi ng kampanya ng militar laban sa mga sibilyang aktibista.

Ang grupo ni “Ka Parago" ay sinasabing kumikilos sa buong rehiyong ng Davao - GMANews.TV

http://www.gmanews.tv/story/151797/Pagpata...dena-ng-militar

Only a successful investigation on the case will proove the innocence of the military here.

These are old trickery of the NPA insurgents to derail the peace effort of the state. They initiate evil sacrifice on their own kind to add dirt to the already dirty regime.

you are really stupid...

what obvious? can you be more specific?

its you who started this topic and accused the military of killing that daughter so it your obligation to provide the evidence!

I'm just wondering, why are we so much focused on the alleged human rights abuses by the AFP, isn't it that the other side is also committing a lot of human rights abuses? Blowing up communication towers by alleged NPA members deprives the people of communication facilities specially in times of emergency.

What is ironic here is they claim to be fighting in behalf of the people.

Isn't this too early to accuse the military?

There are various groups and private persons in Mindanao who could have perpetrated the crime.

The thing here is that it has been happening ever since and there are lot of witnesses as well.

If thge military is not inclined to such crimes then why are the killings remained unresolved?

Masakit man aminin. It is always interpreted as the military is all behind these.

Hindi naman tanga ang taongbayan para maniwala sa pagsisinungaling ng mga military officers.

TO EXONERATE THE MILITARY, THE MUST SOLVE THIS CASE AND NOT END UP JUST LIKE TAHE CASE OF THE 2 UP STUDENTS WHO WERE ABDUCTED AND REMAINED AN UNRESOLVED CASE.

Duterte says military abuses can’t be denied


Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 06:42:00 03/16/2009

Filed Under: Military, Local authorities


DAVAO CITY—Mayor Rodrigo Duterte has lashed out at the military for denying claims that soldiers had been violating the rights of civilians in Paquibato District here.

Duterte, who earlier asked the military to just bomb Paquibato areas instead of mauling civilians, said the abuses could not be denied.

Lt. Col. Roland Bautista, spokesperson of the 10th Infantry Division which has jurisdiction over the unit deployed in Paquibato, said the reported harassment of civilians were part of the lies being peddled by the communist New People’s Army (NPA).

Maj. Randolph Cabangbang, spokesperson of the Eastern Mindanao Command, even said that soldiers deployed in Paquibato, a hinterland district about two hours’ drive from here, were there to secure the civilians from NPA atrocities.

But Duterte said his eyes would not betray him.

He said he saw the bruises of six residents of Barangay Panialum, who were mauled by soldiers after a land mine exploded in the area in January and wounded seven soldiers.

“A beating here and there,” he said while gesturing.

Duterte said he told Defense Secretary Gilbert Teodoro about the abuses in Paquibato, which the military and police have tagged as a communist hotbed.

Paquibato is where NPA rebels led by Leoncio Pitao operate. Pitao’s daughter was abducted and killed by suspected military agents early this month.

“I think you are the problem,” Duterte said to the military.

He said it was no wonder that the NPA has not weakened over the years.

“You’re just helping the NPA recruit more members,” he said.

Duterte also blasted the military for regularly rounding up civilians in the area.

Paquibato officials had accused the military of forcing residents to report to their camp and ask about their political affiliations.

They were also being forced to join the anticommunist Barangay Defense System, the officials said.

“You cannot just call civilians to report to your camp. You are not kempetai. Remember, you’re fighting your own countrymen here, this is not a Japanese invasion,” Duterte said. Germelina A. Lacorte, Inquirer Mindanao

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadl...-cant-be-denied

When will these generals and military planners and strategists ever learn?

Nakakahiya naman itong mga ito.

Ang dmi ng schooling wala pa ring natututunan.

Do you think it is possible that people who were victims of alleged NPA attrocities can do such a thing? How about Kumander Parago's rivals and make it appear as a military operation?

How about vigilante groups? Isn't that Davao was the base of the Alsa Masa in the late '80s?

How about common criminals? Nagkataon lang na anak ng NPA kumander yung nadale nila?

How come you made a conclusion na it was the generals who ordered it?

Flipzi, im in the military, albeit in a different unit of the army. Why do you assume that the military had anything to do with these? Why? Because you or someone else said so? Are you an authority on the subject of military abuses? If you really believe that military personnel did this crime, then by all means, present evidence, not just hearsay. Last time I checked, it is the duty of the prosecution to prove the guilt of the accused. The accused does not have to prove his innocence because it is enshrined in our constitution that any accused is presumed to be innocent until proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt.
Yes, that includes you. If I accuse you right now of murder or theft or anything else, you don't have to prove your innocence, for the courts will always assume it. I know that sucks, because even someone as worthless and stupid as you is still given the benefit of the doubt. That is somewhat hard for me to accept but I still have to live with it and fight for it. Think about what I said before you go and make any more baseless accusations.

Fellows;


Telling that the military cannot do this is downright stupid. We've known the facts since Marcos. There are other dissappearances that were not resolved. All were linked to the military. But ofcourse the military simply denied it.

What stupid and dumb here is simply accepting the position that the military had no hand in this. That it cannot be them.

The situation and history supports the military involvement.

My point here in all this is to emphasize that the military can defeat the rebels without violating human rights or without abusing the innocents.

This is what we all wanted the military to understand.

All our efforts will go to nothing if the military who are compelled to enforce the law and uphold justice are the ones disrespecting the constitution.

Eto na lang malinaw na may nangyayaring abuso.

If you cant see in that, then something is wrong in the way you're seeing the stories.

I'm not saying that there is no possibility of the military having anything to do with said incident. However, if indeed you have every reason to believe that military personnel executed said crime, by all means, go and prosecute them, file a case against them, present evidence. It is very unfair for those in the military to be accused without the benefit of being able to defend their rights. It is very easy to destroy someones reputation by what you are saying. It is not right to generalize all military men as scalawags. Are you really saying that because abuses were committed during Martial Law, up to now ganon pa rin ang ginagawa ng sundalo.

Wag mo ko patawanin at insultuhin. Ang pamilya ko puro sundalo, WWII veteran ang lolo ko, ang tatay ko bagong retire lang na MSgt, ang kapatid ko na lalaki PFC, ako sa awa ng Diyos malapit na maging 1LT. Hindi mo ba naiisip na may mga tao na tapat na nagseserbisyo para sa bayan tapos ng dumating ka, lahat kami idamay mo sa mga akusasyon mo. Hindi ko kayang tangapin ang mga sinasabi mo. Kaya kung gusto mo, magfile ka na lang ng kaso against the whole AFP. Mas maganda pa kesa naman manira ka lang ng walang basehan.

I can understand how you are feeling right now.

But you know there are a lot of stubborn people who doesn't feel the same way.

These people because they are so stupid and dumb just keeps on repeating the abuses just to meet the President's deadline.

Dude, dont even put it as if there are no rotten eggs in the military. Dont forget why the Magdalo men risked their all.

Dont even insult my capacity by saying that it's impossible for the military to have done this since you're a family of soldiers.

WHAT'S YOUR FAMILY OF SOLDIERS GOT TO DO WITH THE KILLING OF REBELYN OR THE UP STUDENTS AND THE VICTIMS OF MARCO'S RULE ANYWAY?

Maski na maging sundalo pati kaapuapuhan mo ay wala akong pakialam kasi hindi naman yan kasagutan sa problema sa military abuses.

Huwag ka ring magpalaki ng ulo kasi di lang ikaw dito ang may kamag-anak na sundalo.

I'm doing these to protect them and the men like your relatives who have served the country well and honorably.

Point is THE ABUSE IN THE MILITARY AS WELL AS THE CORRUPTION ARE STILL NOT A A THING OF THE PAST.

Let's all work on it.

As for your family of soldiers, I salute you all for your heroism. But dont drag it into the topic as if there's no way the military can do such crimes just because you have a family of soldiers.

Are you getting the point, Mr. Soldier?

Don't stop me from hitting the right points.

I still know what im doing.

Dont lose your logic just because you admire too much what your family has been doing for the country.

Putting all those accounts in fact wont solve the military's problem.

We need to do much more than that.

Now, save your family's pride by not dragging them into this issue.

By the way, look.

Even the President's first impression is that it's a case of HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATION.

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadl...rebels-daughter

The problem kasi with you is you see the military as a bunch of inept, corrupt and stupid people, you blame them for everything, for the tactics employed to combat insurgents, for the dillapidated equipment, for corruption and even the camouflage design. Seems to me that you have an ax to grind against our soldiers.

The sources of your information is still questionable, mind you, not all that is written in the papers are true. If I may suggest, why don't you enlist and request for an assignment in Basilan so you can experience what our soldiers are up against, otherwise, keep your mouth shut!

Dude, hindi ko kailangan magpunta sa Basilan para sumabak para lang maunawan ang BUONG SITWASYON.

Magpunta man ako duon at makipag-itakan sa Abu Sayaff "maski na kaya ko" ay konti lang mauunawaan ko. Mauunawan ko lng hirap ng laban at buhay ng sundalo duon pero hanggang yun lang mauunawan ko.

At alam na alam ko buhay ng sundalo sa baba.

Hindi ako tanga at bobo gaya ng nasa isip mo.

Mas malawak yung sinisilipan ko kaya marahil hindi maunawaan ng iba ang isip ko.

As you can see I addressed the criticism to the 10th ID only kasi kanilang OpCon ang ginalawan ng suspects.

I know that my words are kinda harsh but it's the way to go since these rotten eggs who doesnt care about the victims and the people who love them wont hear or give a damn about it.

Or at least the people around them would act on it.

Kung may collateral damage sa actual combat ay meron din sa medium na ito.

But it's necessary.

Collateral damage din naman buong AFP when issues like Gen Garcia and the Magdalo revelations happens.

The only difference is that yung kay Gen. Garcia at yung thousands like it na "unexposed" ay negative ang effect sa AFP.

While mine will have its positive effect.

And believe me, mabuti na yung may nagsasalita para mamulat sa tama yung susunod na henerasyon ng military leaders.

At yung military strategists ngayun ay talaga naman palpak. Tignan mo nakailang deadline na sila at di pa rin matapos ang laban.

Pati ABU SAYAFF di matapos.

Nagsama na kabobohan, katanganhan, .. PANGUNGURAKOT at MAKASARILING INTENSIYON SA GERA kaya namamayagpag pa ang mga problema sa COIN.

Itanung mo sa Magdalo yan at sa mga sundalo sa baba para maunawaan mo.

By the way, suggestion ko ay manatili yung current directive na dapat I-LEAD NG BATTALION COMMANDERS ang laban sa gera, by being in the frontline, sa Mindanao para malaman natin kung sinu ang kakutsaba sa katiwalian sa gera at kung sinu ang tunay na sundalo.

If you really wanna help the military, be my guest. Show us what we are doing wrong, tell us please. I'm dying to hear it from you, who happens to be the know-it-all sa lahat ng kasalanan, kamalian, katangahan ng sundalo. Help us because we have been "f***ing up" sa aming trabaho simula pa noon. And yes, regarding Magdalo, oo, may ipinaglalaban sila, may prinsipyo sila, pero I wouldn't dare say na alam ko kung ano ang motivations nila sa ginawa nila. At hindi rin naman sila lang ang matinong sundalo sa AFP, meron din iba na may ibang pamamaraan sa pagpakita ng pagmamahal nila sa bayan.

Mahaba po ang listahan kung anu yung palpak sa military.

Actually. okay naman yung policies.

The problem lies in the implementation.

When greed comes in, ...yun na.

Nandiyan yung kaso na yung pumapatay sa sundalo ay bala na galing mismo sa AFP.

From the Lamitan Siege to the Magdalo revelations and to Gen. Garcia.

Napabayaan na yung GENUINE SERVICE TO THE NATION at napalitan ng GREED and ABUSE OF AUTHORITY.

Kaya matatalino lang sa paggawa ng kagaguhan at pagnanakaw. Pero pag sa pagsasaayos na ng problema ng bayan, ay mga kamote na.

Yung ang mga dulot ng problema.

Magagaling at matatatalino at matatapang yung nga frontliners. Nagbubuwis ng buhay para sa bayan.

Pero ginagago lang pala ng mga nasa taas na ginagawang negosyo at laro ang gera.

By the way, kung gusto mo na malaman ang suhestiyun namin ay subukan mo na basahin mga sinulat namin mula pa nuong una.

Kasi halos lahat ng isyu ay napanisan na namin ng laway. Makailang ulit na namin napagusapan.

Pero sa mga iyun at sa nangyari sa AFP gaya ng sa Magdalo at sa mga iba pang naglakas ng loob na magsalita ay isa lang punot dulo.

Ito ay ang kabulukan ng namamahala sa AFP.

Matagal na sanang natapos ang Abu Sayyaf na yan pero marami nagkakapera at nakikinabang sa pamamayagpag ng mga iyan.

Tapos yung mga nasa baba na sundalo namamatay lang ng ganun ganun na lang.

From now on you need not worry. The AFP has appointed one political officer per platoon. They would impose non-violation of the law via lectures on rule of law, support for the chain of command and grappling with a common enemy named Sison to those of different partisan beliefs when it comes to supporting past or present presidents (They made it, Imelda, Cory, Estrada, Ramos, Marcos, Arroyo against one common enemy, Sisono. The law maybe harsh but that is the law but we 'forgive our brethren'. They have also have a trio self-criticism-criticism squad per platoon. '-epigone, always in the know

Para hindi na magaway-awaay but coupplotters and mutineers are definitely out!

when was this started, Epi?

are all platoons now have their own political officers?

They are going to implement them. But the content has not yet been decided upon. According to ____. it is 'feasible' given that it was effective on the Vietcong.

I suggest they would name them Civil Relations Officer/Specialists or so.

The "Political Officer" tag has its negative connotations.

You're still the same brilliant flipzi that I have known. Better.

I may seem this good because im with the best.

It's not me.

It's us.

It's that simple. :armywink:

How are you sure the Commies did not do this?

I have a question to the esteem group of the PDFF.

Is a communist preaching citizen or affiliate considered an enemy of the state?

Should his or her murder be investigated by the military or the local law enforcement?

Obvious reasons points to the suspect, which is the military.

Even cops would do the same thing for other cases. Motive and obvious reasons.

By the way, the death should be handled by the PNP.

But an investigation on the involvement of the military should be supported by top officials to defeat a whitewash.

Military nab soldier tagged in killings of activists in CL - DOJ

abs-cbnNEWS.com | 09/25/2009 1:49 AM

The Department of Justice (DOJ) announced Thursday that an Army soldier described as a “most wanted man” for his alleged involvement in extrajudicial killings has been detained.

Justice Secretary Agens Devanadera, in a statement, said Wilfredo Layug Jr. is currently being detained by the Philippine Army.

The statement said that the Presidential Task Force Against Political Violence or TF-211 led by Justice Undersecretary Ricardo Blancaflor worked on the search for Layug.

Blancaflor, in the statement, said Layug used the aliases Ka Bong, Virgilio Layug, Wilfredo T. Yumul and Leodegardo Yumul Jr.

Layug was identified as a Private First Class in the Philippine Army.

He was reportedly arrested by the Provost Marshall Office of the Armed Forces of the Philippines.

Layug was reportedly charged with involvement in 8 extrajudicial killings “involving militants and political activists that are based mostly in Region 3 (Central Luzon).” He reportedly has 6 pending warrants of arrest.

The detained soldier would reportedly undergo “processing “ for a number of military offenses he has also been reportedly charged with. After this, the statement said, the National Bureau of Investigation would then serve the warrants of arrest.

The statement also said that the justice secretary expressed gratitude to the Philippine Army for its cooperation in Layug’s arrest.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/regions/...ctivists-cl-doj