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Title: Air Force Commandos
Description: The wingwipers...the SPOW


destroyerman - October 9, 2004 08:53 AM (GMT)
Very professional looking Filipino commandos, what unit do these dudes belong?

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Dreamrider - October 9, 2004 09:17 AM (GMT)
Ill hazard a guess, the sniper is wearing some sort of diving mask so Naval commandos like the SWAg?

hehehe Im wrong? :drunk:

Numbers - October 9, 2004 11:17 AM (GMT)
I think its a gas mask , not a diving mask. :armyneutral:

Switik - October 10, 2004 01:54 AM (GMT)
A high risk CQB entry team judging from the SMGs but why should the long range sniper wear a gas mask?


flipzi - October 10, 2004 04:25 AM (GMT)
....could be JSOG.


ColdDeadFish - October 10, 2004 09:30 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Switik @ Oct 10 2004, 09:54 AM)
A high risk CQB entry team judging from the SMGs but why should the long range sniper wear a gas mask?

the sniper dons a mask but not for the entry team members, this world has gone mad!

Iron Dragon - October 10, 2004 10:39 AM (GMT)
They just probably decided that the gas mask will look cooler on the sniper than on the entry team and thought that most of the parade onlookers are not as discerning and as perfectionist as we PDFF posters. :armysmile:

didu - October 10, 2004 11:44 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Switik @ Oct 10 2004, 09:54 AM)
A high risk CQB entry team judging from the SMGs but why should the long range sniper wear a gas mask?

what is the meaning of JSOG sir?

...sorry I have many questions...I'm planning to enter the PMA and Im trying to learn many things about our military...

snipe - October 11, 2004 04:00 AM (GMT)
The M21 sniper rifle looks like the commercial M1A Carlos Hatchcock edition of SPRINGFIELD ARMORY INC. I bet that sniper will have a hard time getting a "cheek weld" on his rifle having that gas mask :armyLol:

Tormentor - October 11, 2004 11:40 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (didu @ Oct 10 2004, 07:44 PM)
QUOTE (Switik @ Oct 10 2004, 09:54 AM)
A high risk CQB entry team judging from the SMGs but why should the long range sniper wear a gas mask?

what is the meaning of JSOG sir?

...sorry I have many questions...I'm planning to enter the PMA and Im trying to learn many things about our military...

Whew, kids and their questions ! :demon:

Meaning of JSOG: Japan Society of Obstetrics and Gynecology


oh seriously - Joint Special Operations Group :thumb:

Tormentor - October 11, 2004 11:47 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (snipe @ Oct 11 2004, 12:00 PM)
The M21 sniper rifle looks like the commercial M1A Carlos Hatchcock edition of SPRINGFIELD ARMORY INC. I bet that sniper will have a hard time getting a "cheek weld" on his rifle having that gas mask :armyLol:

Get real man, that sniper dude forgot to bring his beret to the parade so they made him wear the gas mask instead as punishment.

Nyahahahaha. :demon:

didu - October 23, 2004 06:53 AM (GMT)
meron po ba tayo?

flipzi - October 23, 2004 07:06 AM (GMT)
SPECIAL OPERATIONS WING

www.paf.mil.ph

But not as trained and armed like the LRC, SR, SF and SWAG though.

Numbers - October 24, 2004 04:40 AM (GMT)
Hehe flipz, the Air Force dudes will hate you for saying that. :aberet:

flipzi - October 25, 2004 12:53 AM (GMT)
alright!

they are as good as the LRC and SWAG. :thumb:

hehehe.... baka harangin na ko sa VAB nyan eh.. hihihi

don't forget the feat of the PAF Combat Force that guarded and repulsed the NPA attack on one of the major power plants located in Southern Luzon. (Calaca yata) :thumb: :thumb:




Numbers - February 16, 2005 04:40 AM (GMT)
...can also do some damage at ground level. :demon:

http://news.inq7.net/regions/index.php?ind...&story_id=27636

Air Force men kill 3 NPA guerrillas

Posted 11:42pm (Mla time) Feb 15, 2005
Inquirer News Service



Editor's Note: Published on page A17 of the February 16, 2005 issue of the Philippine Daily Inquirer

CALAMBA CITY, Laguna, Philippines -- A day after the New People's Army (NPA) owned up to the killing of four policemen in an ambush in Virac, Catanduanes, government troops on Tuesday killed three alleged guerrillas and captured two others in a mountainous village in Calatagan, Batangas.

Col. Jaime Buenaflor, chief of the 202nd Infantry Brigade of the Philippine Army, said a platoon of the 730th Combat Wing of the Philippine Air Force (PAF), led by a certain Capt. Del Tierro, received information from a resident that an armed group was sighted in Barangays Baha and Hukay at the foot of Mt. San Pedrino.

Buenaflor told the Inquirer in a mobile phone interview that as the government troops were approaching the area at around 8:25 a.m., thesuspected rebels fired at them.

He said the gun battle lasted for an hour until the rebels, numbering about 20, retreated to the mountains.

Soldiers found the bodies of a middle-aged woman and two men armed with high-powered firearms as they were clearing the area,said Buenaflor.

Recovered from the three were backpacks containing communist documents, an M-14 rifle and two M-16 Armalite rifles.


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BTW guys, how many troops are there in a PAF Combat Wing?
:thumb:

ColdDeadFish - February 16, 2005 05:33 AM (GMT)
If I am not mistaken this is one of the SROC trained PAF combat battalions. Goodam battalion is doing really well! Kudos to the 730th!

ColdDeadFish - February 16, 2005 05:42 AM (GMT)
They are organized like a typical army Bn of course they have PAF names for them, but its like 3 Coy + BnHQ elements. These neps probably engaged either a SPOW team (7men) or SPOW section (18men), but I reckon its a team as neps seldom engage an SR type section, as a section can upon contact can immediately break up into a assualt team, a maneuver, and hq/reserve element. A section is all you need to beat up badly a nep propaganda platoon.

Kombo3 - February 16, 2005 09:21 AM (GMT)
So even the PAF has its own SR capable units. Cool. :thumb:

flipzi - February 16, 2005 09:44 AM (GMT)

This is not the first time this 730th combat elements managed to hit the news.

Kudos to these guys. :thumb:

Nonetheless, just for my own though, i am still trying to find a convincing set of reasons why the Air Force must maintain a group of ground units despite the fact that they are suppose to utilize their funds for aircraft maintenance and just leave the ground assault operations to the Army and Marines.

A company-size unit will be a good compromise though.



caterwaul - February 16, 2005 09:52 AM (GMT)
coz the PAF is abundant with able people - look, even the platoon leader is a Captain :wow:

I wonder if he's a flyboy with no plane to fly is why he ended up haulin' ass up in the hills and jungles...

ColdDeadFish - February 16, 2005 10:18 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (flipzi @ Feb 16 2005, 05:44 PM)


A company-size unit will be a good compromise though.

I think they do have a seperate unit for that, its the PAF SMU (Special Missions Unit), its secretive I can not even figure out where these guys train or which wing they are attached to, but most SR trained PAF officers is rumoured to end up in this unit if not the SPOW Bn.

caterwaul - February 16, 2005 10:23 AM (GMT)
ngak!!! ang dami na pala nating special action units !!

flipzi - February 16, 2005 10:25 AM (GMT)

Oh boy! :dunno:

Okay, since the 730th is not wasting its fund apparently anyway, i believe, in my own limited understanding though, ... that it is best for the PAF to find out what is the the most efficient size of combat troops that it REALLY NEEDS TO MAINTAIN to support its own strategy.



ColdDeadFish - February 16, 2005 12:23 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Kombo3 @ Feb 16 2005, 05:21 PM)
So even the PAF has its own SR capable units. Cool. :thumb:

In the history of the FSRR, everytime the FSRR is disbanded, the AFP in its right wisdom always maintained the SRTS. SRTS is a training provider to the whole of the AFP with or without the FSRR. It just so happens that the PAF utilized this arrangment to the fullest. Now they are reaping the rewards with their SR and SROC certified combat officers and enlisted personnel. SR tactics have matured in the PAF Combat Wings, its just a matter of time before the fighting doctrine evolves (or maybe PAF will just keep the existing arrangement bec it works for them). Either ways, it is saving the lives of airforce men in the combat wings!

Pendejo - February 16, 2005 12:51 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ColdDeadFish @ Feb 16 2005, 02:18 AM)
QUOTE (flipzi @ Feb 16 2005, 05:44 PM)


A company-size unit will be a good compromise though.

I think they do have a seperate unit for that, its the PAF SMU (Special Missions Unit), its secretive I can not even figure out where these guys train or which wing they are attached to, but most SR trained PAF officers is rumoured to end up in this unit if not the SPOW Bn.


Ah, you are inching closer to what was then known as "Dahong Palay." We were attached to a group, not a wing.

:armywink:

Sio Koy Ang - February 16, 2005 02:07 PM (GMT)
:devilwink: meaning to say pendejo that you were once a member of this "dahong palay" unit?

a most appropriate name indeed - this snake actually killed one of our farmhands back in 1981., the real snake, not the military type.


Pendejo - February 16, 2005 04:11 PM (GMT)
I was with the 300th Air Intelligence Security Group (then known as 300th Special Missions Unit). The original Dahong Palay was several years before my time but many of the original members were in my squadron when I was there. We were a covert intel and spec ops unit operating throughout the country. The 300th had four squadrons then, 301st, 302nd, 303rd and 304th. I think they have 5 or 6 squadrons now plus an intelligence training school.

ColdDeadFish - February 16, 2005 06:09 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Pendejo @ Feb 17 2005, 12:11 AM)
I was with the 300th Air Intelligence Security Group (then known as 300th Special Missions Unit). The original Dahong Palay was several years before my time but many of the original members were in my squadron when I was there. We were a covert intel and spec ops unit operating throughout the country. The 300th had four squadrons then, 301st, 302nd, 303rd and 304th. I think they have 5 or 6 squadrons now plus an intelligence training school.

I stand corrected, was misled as I always thought that new SMUs were created and attached (of late) to tactical helo wings, but I think my impression is wrong. Good to have someone and clear the air.

flipzi - February 17, 2005 03:06 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Pendejo @ Feb 17 2005, 12:11 AM)
I was with the 300th Air Intelligence Security Group (then known as 300th Special Missions Unit). The original Dahong Palay was several years before my time but many of the original members were in my squadron when I was there. We were a covert intel and spec ops unit operating throughout the country. The 300th had four squadrons then, 301st, 302nd, 303rd and 304th. I think they have 5 or 6 squadrons now plus an intelligence training school.


Astig! :bow: :bow: :bow:

It's nice to have you here. :specool:

Switik - February 17, 2005 01:55 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Pendejo @ Feb 17 2005, 12:11 AM)
I was with the 300th Air Intelligence Security Group (then known as 300th Special Missions Unit). The original Dahong Palay was several years before my time but many of the original members were in my squadron when I was there. We were a covert intel and spec ops unit operating throughout the country. The 300th had four squadrons then, 301st, 302nd, 303rd and 304th. I think they have 5 or 6 squadrons now plus an intelligence training school.

And I thought you're a retired PAF pilot.

:thumb:

alcoholic - February 18, 2005 11:07 AM (GMT)
if i'm not wrong the philippines is only among the few countries with air force troops actively participating in combat operations outside of airbase perimeters...most world air force troops guard airbases only..

Pendejo - February 21, 2005 02:27 PM (GMT)
The best defense is a strong offense. :rifle:

ColdDeadFish - February 22, 2005 08:37 AM (GMT)
Soldier killed in Batangas clash with NPA rebels

CAMP VICENTE LIM, Laguna, Philippines -- (UPDATE) A government soldier has been killed in a gunfight between 40 communist New People's Army rebels and government troops in barangay (village) Cumba, Lian town, Batangas province, a police official said.

Senior Superintendent Francisco Don Montenegro identified the dead soldier as Air Force First Lieutenant Moreno Servito, correcting an earlier statement he made that a certain Lieutenant Corbito had been killed.

The firefight between the rebels and troops belonging to the 401st and 402nd provincial mobile group, the 730th combat group of the Philippine Air Force, and men from the Lian police station started at 6:45 a.m. and is still going on, Montenegro said

LINK

Unfortunately they are also a victim of their own success. Lt. Servito's patrol was ambushed and the word is that his patrol become much more daring during this operation.

Now the stakes are higher! Go 730th!

flipzi - February 22, 2005 11:16 AM (GMT)

:thumb: :thumb: to the 730th!

Just come hope safe, bros.



Iron Dragon - February 22, 2005 12:36 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ColdDeadFish @ Feb 22 2005, 04:37 PM)
Soldier killed in Batangas clash with NPA rebels



LINK

Unfortunately they are also a victim of their own success. Lt. Servito's patrol was ambushed and the word is that his patrol become much more daring during this operation.

Now the stakes are higher! Go 730th!

Maintain the pressure but stay alert dudes. :thumb:

Singa Lion - March 1, 2005 10:18 AM (GMT)
also us airforce :thumb:

http://www.strategypage.com//fyeo/howtomak...arget=HTINF.HTM

INFANTRY: US Air Force Airborne Infantry


February 28, 2005: The U.S. Army is not the only American armed service with airborne infantry. The U.S. Air Force has found that, increasingly, it has had to send armed escorts aboard aircraft landing in remote, or unguarded, air fields. These air force security force troops look like army infantrymen, except that some of them are women. They are equipped like army infantry, with helmets, body armor and assault rifles. The air force security forces are more like army military police, which also have females in the ranks. The aircraft security teams are providing “fly-away protection.” This means that when the aircraft lands, at least two of the security troops get out and stand guard while the aircraft is unloaded and loaded. If the aircraft (usually a C-130) is going to stay there for a while, the security team will maintain armed guard of the aircraft around the clock. The main function of the “fly-away protection” is to prevent light-fingered locals from stealing cargo, or equipment, from the aircraft. This is not a new problem. As far back as World War II, when cargo aircraft first began landing in remote airfields, there were problems with local civilians helping themselves. Today, you have to be careful in Afghanistan, where outsiders are commonly sized up for their potential as easily lifted loot. In peacekeeping and disaster relief operations, theft is also a problem, with lots of desperate locals willing to grab what they can. The “fly-away protection” teams consist of two, four or more troops. The transport crews are also armed, and can help guard, or defend, their aircraft if needed. By being diligent about providing guards for the aircraft, the word quickly gets around that it’s not worth the hassle going after American transports.

flipzi - March 2, 2005 04:40 AM (GMT)

.... with a different task compared to ours though.

Our Air Force commandos are geared for fighting the rebels, and not just looters, ...

... right on the ground and out of the airfields.

valiant - May 8, 2005 01:30 AM (GMT)
is this still regularly held?

http://marina.fortunecity.com/cyprus/33/fatpaf98.html

guys this patch is awesome, what PAF personnel wear this?
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spearhead - August 12, 2006 12:37 PM (GMT)
Am not talking about the Airborne Army Rangers, but the PAF's own airborne foot-soldiers? Any info? Thanks. :aberet:




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