Vote! :bow:

Ate Glo :armywink:

Never in our history has a president dared to put on trial high-ranking military officials.

She also laid the ground in the fight against corruption on all areas of governance.

This is our best chance ever to realize a major turnaround for the country.

cory aquino, she has been instrumental in bringing back democracy to the country, and besides she didn't seek reelection even though it is legal for her to do so at the time...not like the other woman president who broke her promise. :armyfrown:

No vote for Erap? :demon:

bakit wala diyan si ramon magsaysay? - the greatest filipino president ever!

Actually, AFP personnel for the longest time felt better economic benefits during erap's time. The bonuses were better and most of the increases happened during his term.

This is a tough one, but I am torn between GMA and Ramon Magsaysay. The only thing though is there have been rumors (and I haven't seen the actual facts) that President Magsaysay was a CIA plant.

Another thing was his "Filipino First" policies pissed them off which led to a bomb being planted in the aircraft he was onboard when he died. Pinalabas na lang that it crashed daw.

I'm not trying to stir the pot here, but I am just putting out what I've been hearing ever since I was a teen. So please correct me. Thanks.

On leadership I rate Erap much higher than GMA.

cory coz i still believe moral ascendancy is above and over anything else.

NONE OF THE ABOVE!

Para sa akin si Eddie Gil talaga! wala nang iba, the others are in a state of self denial, this guy flaunts it, this what we are looking for right? the virtue of honesty.......hehehehehe :specool:

cory could not have increased military benefits immediately, ehat with the disarray she inherited from marcos.

kawawa naman si gloria, si flipzi lang ang fan, bakit kaya?

ok naman siya a :demon:

Ramos blames self, ex-presidents after Marcos for RP ills

Posted 02:27pm (Mla time) Feb 25, 2005
By Joel Francis Guinto
INQ7.net



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FORMER president Fidel Ramos admitted on Friday that the presidents after the late Ferdinand Marcos, including himself, should be blamed for the country's problems, and not the 1986 People Power revolt that restored democracy.

"It's not the fault of EDSA. It's the fault of the leaders after the dictatorship," Ramos told reporters on the sidelines of the 19th anniversary of the first People Power uprising.

When asked to specify which leader he was referring to, Ramos said: "I'm referring to everybody. Pati ako i-examine nyo (Examine me too)."

"It's our fault because we did not take to heart the vision of our people," Ramos said.

As chief of the Philippine Constabulary in 1986, Ramos, with then defense minister Juan Ponce Enrile withdrew support from Marcos, triggering days of protests along the stretch of EDSA highway between the corners of Santolan and Ortigas Avenues.

Then housewife Corazon Aquino, whose husband ex-senator Benigno “Ninoy” Aquino Jr. was assassinated

I wonder what would be the outcome if Cory decides to run for president next elections.

Eddie Gil?? harharharhar sayaw KIKAY!

:dancedevil: :dancedevil: :dancedevil: :dancedevil:


best President is Ferdinand Marcos....but from the list written above GMA is better than the others.

Well, as the spirit of the truth made his tongue to slip by admitting to be a part of the blame for the wrong doings of the Marcos regime, then the case of late Ninoy Aquino should have a case caption like this:


THE PEOPLE OF THE PHILIPPINES-
(Plaintiff)


-versus-



FERDINAND E. MARCOS, JUAN PONCE ENRILE, FABIAN C. VER, FIDEL V. RAMOS, et al,..

Those are the sweetest words ive ever heard from Gen. Ramos!

It's good that he's helping our nation pinpoint what really went wrong after EDSA 1?

Sir, :thumb: :thumb: tayo dyan, ..... like you always did when hear something that pleases you. :armywink:

cory aquino siyempre...the conscience of the nation!

Pare Eddie Gil pa rin! Kung sya ang presidente ng Pilipinas wala na tayong utang sa foreign creditors. Kita mo naman galing nya, mga tao nag aartista para pumapasok sa Pulitika, si Eddie Gil nag pulitika para maging artista. Can't you guys see the masterstroke?

We vote for people into office that we someday deem as morons, why not just vote for someone who admits that he is a moron while campaigning, honesty is a virtue pare.

:dontgetit:

i was in Manila yesterday and boarded a PAL plane for Cebu, our flight was delayed for more than 1 hour bec the plane was not allowed to take off before GMA's plane from Rome can land, the plane's airconditioning wasn't functioning properly and we roasted under the searing heat while waiting to takeoff, the Australian tourist beside me was sweating buckets and muttering that he would no longer return to the Philippines saying that in his country, air travellers are not made to wait even if their prime minister is about to land.

is this really the protocol here?

I dunno, baka trip lang ni Presidentita :demon: or most likely for security reasons, like the pilot of the plane you boarded will suddenly go mad and ram his plane into GMA's plane :drunk:

Maybe Pendejo can answer this, he's the expert on airport and airbase security. :thumb:

Aftermath of EDSA, presidency
I VOTE FOR RAMOS.

Coz, he was able to maintain as moderate and play to the waves. Able to bring peace even if the other people critizing him and some minor clashes. He was able the maintain grip of power during his 6 year term without a destabilition going on and bring the Philippines to the world. He's achievement are security, stability and sustainable economy. One thing, He's cunning diplomacy and carisma....the man is well respected.

-He the one who stole the stoplight in EDSA other then Enrile.
-He the one who silents MNLF to persue peace.(3 more to go)
-He the one who been choosen as the successor to cory, even the public dislikes him.
-He one envision the master plan for AFP.
- what esle pro...about him I DUNNO

The philippine presidency is at a high difficult level. choosing the best president it must be there achievement not there failure.

I rather have the pride than conscience which brings weakness.

FVR was the best among the rest of those in the list! :aberet:

well....depends on who's going to be more prioritized.

military - erap/marcos
civilian - arroyo/cory

take note: the presidents who put more emphasis on the military got hacked out.

It depends on how they prioritize the military, bub. :aberet:

Best Presidents:

Ferdinand Marcos, during his first term (1965-1969)
Ramon Magsaysay
Fidel Ramos


Between "Best" and "Worst"

Gloria Arroyo
Erap Estrada
Elpidio Quirino
Manuel Quezon
Sergio Osmena
Diosdado Macapagal
Carlos Garcia
Manuel Roxas

"Worst" presidents:

Ferdinand Marcos (1970-1986)

Corazon Aquino, (I am sorry but I have to put her in this category. What did she do to make the lives of Filipinos better during her term? She did nothing, but to avenged her husband's death against the Marcoses) Not to mention the coup de'tat that tainted her presidency, especially when she called U.S. help during the 1989 coup. this really showed how weak she is.

Emilio Aguinaldo---(a power-hungry, that's why he ordered the killing of Bonifacio and the assassination of Antonio Luna) He was lucky because the Ilocanos have so much respect with Gregorio Aglipay. Aglipay made the Ilocanos to calm down after Aguinaldo's men assassinated Antonio Luna. If it wasn't for Aglipay, the Ilocano army could have attacked the Aguinaldo convoy when he set foot in Isabela province. This is also the reason why there are many Ilocano officers surrendered to the Americans before Aguinaldo's capture.

He needed that power in order to consolidate the infant republic. The Philippines needed an interim dictatorship so that order could be established and a new government could be formed. It was a necessity to erase all opposition in order to smoothen the transition from dictatorship into republic. :aberet:

So you're saying it was necessary to kill Bonifacio and his brother just to consolidate your forces?Does that move a self defeating?Is it smarter if you just be diplomatic about it ?My opinion is Aguinaldo was just plain greedy with power and obsessed with it.Why kill one of the pillars of the revolution.

In war, diplomacy has no place. It only occurs after the conflict is over. And the less diplomacy in war, the faster it ends. :armyroleyes:

So you mean to say Bonifacio was the enemy?Set your priorities straight son you are not making any sense.You have basically branded a person who took up arms against the spaniards for us to be free as the enemy?
Clearly there was a rivalry between Aguinaldo and Bonifacio and instead of consolidating they choose to part ways which was a bad move for the revolution.In killing them basically weakened the revolt.

And while you say that in War diplomacy has no place..are you sure?
And you want to be an officer in the Marine corps? I can see human rights abuse skyrockets thru the roof. :thumb:

This was for the best. In order for the revolution to succeed, we needed ONE strong leader. Any opposition might have hampered any further efforts to gain independence.

No votes for President Ferdinand Marcos? He was quite effective in his early years, no? I thought he was a good president. Kept the rebels quiet. lol :rifle:

His presidency triggered the rebirth of the communist insurgency and the Muslim rebellion. :sniper:

Well, the survey was labelled "in recent times", implying a selection of post-Marcos presidents.

Marcos would have been the Philippine equivalent of Dr. Mahathir Mohammad of Malaysia and Lee Kwan Yu of Singapore. Unfortunately his declining health meant that he was not able to effectively manage the power structures that were needed to prop up a dictatorship (e.g., his cronies, local warlords, etc.)

He did a lot for the country, however his down-sides (e.g., plunder, politicization of the military, etc.) were equally great -- if not more so.

I could be mistaken, but I think Imelda was trying to emulate what the Thai queen was doing for Thai arts (e.g., wood carving, puter-ware production). Too bad all her efforts were abandoned when they were ousted. I visited Thailand in 2002, and couldn't help but envy the progress your Queen's efforts made.

Thank You, Queen Sirikit is beloved for her stressing in the arts. Yes, I have heard of Mrs. Marcos, she is infamously remembered by her thousand pair of shoes no?

Your beauty can be of equal to a queen's, Miss Sirikittong. :urock:

lol. Filipinos are such gentlemen =p. Salamat, commando-you're too sweet. :mademyd:

Ramos and Cory tied at 11 each, they should be part of the proposed junta...what do you think guys? :thumb: