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Posted: May 1 2007, 10:34 AM


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Saksi: First Pinay grad of West Point born in Manila
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http://www.gmanews.tv/video/6158/Saksi-Fir...-born-in-Manila


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Posted: May 2 2007, 01:43 AM


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This is going to sound a little crabby,

But I don't see any reason for rejoicing- she's Fil-American, not Pinay. Her first allegiance is to the United States, not the Philippines.

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It really annoys me every time someone in the Philippines points out a foreigner who is part-pinoy or who is a Pinoy immigrant who is thoroughly white-washed (I admit, I'm kind of white-washed myself to a point) who achieves something. Does it even occur to these newscasters that the person being reported DOESN'T CARE? It's a multicultural society where skin or ethnic descent shouldn't matter. The last thing on her mind when she graduates with all her other American classmates is that she's a Fil-Am.

And I doubt that part Filipino guy who's a member of Black Eyed Peas or that US comedian/actor Rob Schneider who played "Deuce Bigelow...Male Gigolo" really gives a rat's a** that they're part-Pinoy most of time, except when they're visiting Pinoy relatives, but it ends there. They have no allegiance to the Philippines.

When the first Filipina who's an RP citizen graduates from West Point, then that's something to rejoice.

(This may sound a little hypocritical for me to be saying this when I'm here in Canada, but then again my first allegiance nowadays is Ottawa, not Manila.)

Anyone who dares sends me some hate mail for speaking my mind is going to get quite a TONGUE-LASHING from me.

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Posted: May 4 2007, 08:24 AM


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If I were a Fil-American intelligence officer, I'd run her as an agent and send her to 'graveyard' assignments in Mindanao. The lady looks tough, MSantor. She'll be able to withstand torture. With her language skills and liberal education, I'm sure it would be easy for her to blend with the townfolk. I'd say, run her.


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Posted: Mar 1 2008, 06:06 PM


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You'd all be surprised if you really knew.

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Posted: Mar 3 2008, 01:28 PM


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QUOTE (desertranger @ Mar 1 2008, 06:06 PM)
You'd all be surprised if you really knew. Most Fil-Ams are proud of their heritage and keep close contacts with each other during their military career. In the world where they are always singled out as minorities they always have to be on their toes in each situation. When you see them at the top, you can bet that they are the best of the best in their speciality.

And you'd also be surprised how some Fil-Ams who have been thoroughly white-washed just don't care about other Pinoys beyond immediate friends and family.

One Fil-Am whom I was having dinner with in the Philippines, before I left, got angry at a waiter in this restaurant we were at, since I had ordered something and the waiter kept making excuses. Although I didn't think it was a big deal, this family friend yelled at the waiter, demanding that I get what I ordered, saying that he was sick of the "bahala na" attitude he encountered there in the RP where people always settle for less.

This Fil-Am who made this outburst worked at the US Embassy before and was a US military attache and was himself a West Point grad. While I was concerned that he was going a bit overboard with asking for good service, I did not think it was right for him to rub his sense of "cultural superiority" in the restaurant staff's faces, even if he had a point about getting better service.

P.S. Epigone- if you really are an intelligence agent- which you're NOT- you will be able to track down the name of this military attache (now former military attache, I assume) like a snap. I await a BLANK response to this post tomorrow. Hehehe. pbbbt.gif

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Posted: Mar 3 2008, 01:35 PM


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Thats a personal opinion. I beg the differ.

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Posted: Mar 4 2008, 10:37 PM


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QUOTE (MSantor @ Mar 3 2008, 01:28 PM)
And you'd also be surprised how some Fil-Ams who have been thoroughly white-washed just don't care about other Pinoys beyond immediate friends and family.

One Fil-Am whom I was having dinner with in the Philippines, before I left, got angry at a waiter in this restaurant we were at, since I had ordered something and the waiter kept making excuses. Although I didn't think it was a big deal, this family friend yelled at the waiter, demanding that I get what I ordered, saying that he was sick of the "bahala na" attitude he encountered there in the RP where people always settle for less.

This Fil-Am who made this outburst worked at the US Embassy before and was a US military attache and was himself a West Point grad. While I was concerned that he was going a bit overboard with asking for good service, I did not think it was right for him to rub his sense of "cultural superiority" in the restaurant staff's faces, even if he had a point about getting better service.

P.S. Epigone- if you really are an intelligence agent- which you're NOT- you will be able to track down the name of this military attache (now former military attache, I assume) like a snap. I await a BLANK response to this post tomorrow. Hehehe. pbbbt.gif

MSantor, you are hijacking threads. Nothing related to the topic of the thread.


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Posted: Mar 5 2008, 06:26 AM


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QUOTE (epigone @ Mar 4 2008, 10:37 PM)
QUOTE (MSantor @ Mar 3 2008, 01:28 PM)
And you'd also be surprised how some Fil-Ams who have been thoroughly white-washed just don't care about other Pinoys beyond immediate friends and family.

One Fil-Am whom I was having dinner with in the Philippines, before I left, got angry at a waiter in this restaurant we were at, since I had ordered something and the waiter kept making excuses. Although I didn't think it was a big deal, this family friend yelled at the waiter, demanding that I get what I ordered, saying that he was sick of the "bahala na" attitude he encountered there in the RP where people always settle for less.

This Fil-Am who made this outburst worked at the US Embassy before and was a US military attache and was himself a West Point grad... 


MSantor, you are hijacking threads. Nothing related to the topic of the thread.

Read the whole post of mine, Epigone. I did mention a West Point grad in the body of the post.

Read everything before you start making accusations. BTW, your accusation is also hijacking the thread as well. Still awaiting your PMs.

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Posted: Mar 5 2008, 01:06 PM


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MSantor and Epigone, stop bickering around on the threads. Stay on the chatbox, it seems to be exclusively made for you guys.


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Posted: Mar 6 2008, 06:25 AM


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Sir Saver;
I would venture to say that those two are in fact one in the same person meant to distract or amuse us. They both claim to be from Canada now.


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MSantor
Posted: Mar 6 2008, 07:42 AM


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QUOTE (desertranger @ Mar 6 2008, 06:25 AM)
Sir Saver;
I would venture to say that those two are in fact one in the same person meant to distract or amuse us. They both claim to be from Canada now.

Desertranger,

No. Epigone and I are definitely not the same person. If that were true, then how come him and I don't have the same IP address? The poor man- if he is a man- actually REALLY believes that he is some sort of secret agent or counterintelligence agent! PAroleyes.gif

Now think about it seriously- if he really were an intelligence agent- would he be using an internet medium that is only as sophisticated as a mere internet forum where most of the posters are just defense enthusiasts and not in the actual military (though there may be a few exceptions, he is not one of them simply because one can tell that from the way he posts) or defense/security industry?

Anyways, Epigone is too much of a nut to be taken seriously and what he posts here on PDFF isn't always coherent or consistent, though many of us here at PDFF apparently find some of it outlandishly funny at his expense.

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ANYWAYS FOLKS, let's get back on topic!

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Posted: Mar 6 2008, 10:28 PM


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QUOTE (desertranger @ Mar 6 2008, 06:25 AM)
Sir Saver;
I would venture to say that those two are in fact one in the same person meant to distract or amuse us. They both claim to be from Canada now.

MSantor and I are not the same person. I rest my case. Examine my posts in chatbox. Period.


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Manila, Philippines - Five Filipinos who graduated from military academies, including West Point, have decided to served in the Armed Forces of the Philippines.

Interviewed on ANC's Talkbalk with Tina Palma, the graduates said they want to share what they learned in the United States to their fellow Filipino soldiers.

One of the officers, Army Second Lieutenant Christy Achanzar, is the first female PMA cadet to graduate from West Point.

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Posted: Apr 28 2009, 04:36 PM


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QUOTE (kingkong @ Apr 27 2009, 02:50 PM)
Manila, Philippines - Five Filipinos who graduated from military academies, including West Point, have decided to served in the Armed Forces of the Philippines.

Interviewed on ANC's Talkbalk with Tina Palma, the graduates said they want to share what they learned in the United States to their fellow Filipino soldiers.

One of the officers, Army Second Lieutenant Christy Achanzar, is the first female PMA cadet to graduate from West Point.

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Well, if you took your plebehood at the PMA and eventually passed the exams at West Point, then you have to serve the AFP, but if you're a FILAM who grew up in the US, took and passed the exams at West Point, then you have to serve the US Army after graduation.
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Posted: Apr 30 2009, 03:25 PM


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I used to know Isis, if I remember correctly, siya yung pleba na takot malasin dati, but I think, she has gone a long way since that time. I think she deserves to be congratulated, as well as any of her classmates.
There is nothing extra special about her being the first female grad of USMA, many females have already graduated from USMA since 1980, and many Filipinos have also done the same thing.

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