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joker sila	Posted: Sep 17 2004, 06:16 PM
Unregistered	guys, how many are left of the M113 FSVs with the scorpion turret?

hoyhoyhoy	Posted: Sep 17 2004, 06:24 PM
Unregistered	meron ba? ilan ang nagawa?

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seWer Rat	Posted: Sep 18 2004, 09:49 AM
amateur sewer cleaner Group: Analysts Posts: 1,027 Member No.: 87 Joined: 19-August 04	Is that some kind of applique armor on the side of that M113?

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Posted: Sep 26 2004, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE (seWer Rat @ Sep 18 2004, 09:49 AM)

Is that some kind of applique armor on the side of that M113?

only in the phils...

wooden applique armor to predetonate B40 warheads.

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atak dog ni 2nd. hand	Posted: Sep 26 2004, 02:06 PM
Unregistered	the wooden applique armor was not meant for B40 warheads but for locally made MILF RPG-2 rockets that do not have a penetrating rod and thus cannot produce a CE[Chemical Energy]/"Monroe effect"/shaped-charge. The MILF mad round relies on a HE-frag effect to penetrate armor.

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QUOTE (atak dog ni 2nd. hand @ Sep 26 2004, 02:06 PM)

the wooden applique armor was not meant for B40 warheads but for locally made MILF RPG-2 rockets that do not have a penetrating rod and thus cannot produce a CE[Chemical Energy]/"Monroe effect"/shaped-charge. The MILF mad round relies on a HE-frag effect to penetrate armor.

If Im not mistaken, B40 and RPG-2 launchers are designations of the same weapon.

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Guest	Posted: Sep 26 2004, 02:24 PM
Unregistered	B40 po ang bala ng RPG-2 but their are many kinds of RPG-2 rounds. I have seen many kinds of MILF rounds[locally made and imported.

Guest	Posted: Sep 26 2004, 02:25 PM
Unregistered	In short B40 is just one of the rounds of the RPG-2

Guest	Posted: Sep 26 2004, 02:27 PM
Unregistered	Ang MILG may B40 rin[smuggled].

tiktik	Posted: Sep 26 2004, 03:48 PM
Unregistered	bat hindi wrap around ang wooden applique na yan?

Bisdak

Posted: Sep 26 2004, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE (tiktik @ Sep 26 2004, 07:48 AM)

bat hindi wrap around ang wooden applique na yan?

mahirap na pre baka ma-illegal logging

Kampilan	Posted: Sep 27 2004, 06:25 PM
Sargento Primero Group: Rangers Posts: 159 Member No.: 19 Joined: 13-July 04	Other variants of the M113 as operated by the Norwegian Army: Ambulance Mine Roller Mortar Carrier Weapons/Ammo Carrier This post has been edited by Kampilan on Sep 27 2004, 06:27 PM --------------------

100thMember	Posted: Sep 28 2004, 02:27 PM
Soldado Distinguido Group: Provisionals Posts: 37 Member No.: 100 Joined: 28-August 04	Simpleng kahon lang ang design ng M113 kaya madaling i modify.

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Posted: Jul 1 2005, 02:17 PM

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In consonance with the priorities established in the Capability Upgrade Program, the key capabilities that the Philippine Army will develop in the next six years are on the communicate, move and shoot capabilities. Communications were given foremost importance with consideration for the fact that most of our communications equipment in the inventory is outmoded and not secured from enemy eavesdropping efforts. The new communication equipment to be procured has the necessary security features that will foil enemy radio monitoring of our forces' communications especially during combat operations. The second priority is the acquisition of various land mobility platforms to address the lack of mobility assets in the field units. With the secured communications and sufficient mobility, maneuver of units/troops will be enhanced. The last but not necessarily the least is the improvement of firepower capability with the acquisition of additional Squad Automatic Weapons and Night Fighting Equipment. The scheduling for the upgrade of various armor assets in the inventory provides additional firepower support as well as troop mobility and force protection.

http://www.army.mil.ph/2ndSLC2005/ampmo_mod_update.htm

Some of the PA's best assets are the M-113 and AIFV vehicles. Wear and tear has taken a toll on the fleet and alot of them are in need of either replacement or overhaul and upgrade. Some things to consider is the costs, and the costs to the country in particular. So here are some companies that provide upgrade programs for M-113s.

Daewoo's KIFV/KAFV series, in different post.

Nurol/FNSS-Turkish company that can upgrade or manufacture M-113s.

*Nurol ACV-300-M-113 but with modifications. Modernization kits available for upgrade of regular M-113 into this standard. Main work done includes:
-steel laminate add-on armour kit-rated to offer protection from 14.5mm ammunition.
-a 300 hp Detroit Diesel 6V53T engine and Allison X200-4 cross drive transmission.
*weapons and optics can wait for now, but maybe some night fighting optics.
http://www.army-technology.com/contractors...ured/fmc_nurol/

...the PA's armored recovery vehicles were bought from Turkey, maybe from this company.

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Eurenco Armor Upgrade-
*mainly an armor upgrade bot thorough refurbishment. Armor upgrade includes
-Add-on armor for M-113 that is tested to defeat RPG-7.
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http://www.army-technology.com/contractors/armoured/snpe/

AOB Technologies-Israel
-Replacement of engine kits
-Suspension replacement
-kit for replacing steering system
http://www.army-technology.com/contractors/armoured/aob/

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Israel IMI, Rafael-Several upgrades for the M-113 exists.
-L-VAS, Light Vehicle Armor System. Represents the extreme protection, adds 2 tons worth of armor and is capable of defeating 20mm armor piercing and Sagger anti-tank missiles. cost is stated at $75,000 each.
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Zelda/Vayzata-armor that replaced early Zelda armor. New Toga armor, made of carbon-steel plates.
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German FFG-Full modernization on armor and engine, suspension.
some upgrades include, but not the least:
-Armor upgrade
-Suspension
-compartment upgrade,

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http://www.army-technology.com/contractors...index.html#ffg1

Australia-Tenix, yes they sold the PCG ships. Australia contracted Tenix and FFG, see above, for the upgrade of 350 Australian M-113s, for $400million, or about $1.15 million each. work to be done includes:
-EURO III four-stroke DaimlerChrysler-MTU engine and new transmission
-upgrade for improved steering
-new armor upgrade including aplique and spall curtains, mine protection
-new turret from Tenix, and new machine gun, turret has day night targetting
-Modernized seating compartment

http://www.tenix.com/PDFLibrary/137.pdf...but as i said the PA doesnt need this much upgrades, basics first.

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