The Philippine Army Special Forces, "SF makes History"

Hi guys! Do you know where I could get more info on our SF? Puro SR lang ang mga links na nkikita ko, wlang SF eh. Im interested on the Special Forces.

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then go to VICTORS AS ONE.


INFO?

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http://www.angelfire.com/ga/batwentyone/Army.html

Multiple SOCOM-related questions:

I ran into the following term: "Special Forces (Airborne)". Are there any Special Forces troops that didn't go through Airborne training?

Why is the First Scout Ranger Regiment abbreviated as "FSSR"?

Commanders of the SF and SR are called "Regimental Commanders", and abbreviated as "RC", right?

Why is the current head of the SF a Brigadier General, and the head of the Rangers is a Colonel? Is the latter due for promotion?

What's the story with "Regimental" organizations? Are the SF and SR the only "regiments" in the AFP?

The PA armored units used to be under the Phil Army Light Armored Regiment (PALAR), now they are under the Light Armored Brigade. Does anyone here have the background story?

This post has been edited by adroth on Mar 4 2005, 07:08 AM

colonel leads a regiment brigadier general a brigade i dont know if the sf is organized as brigade but

SF units are organized into different core competencies like airborne, rescue, etc etc, the SFRA, SF Regiment (Airborne) specializes in airborne assualt/warfare.

Are there any Special Forces troops that didn't go through Airborne training?

SFR(A) was designed for airborne warfare actually they were patterned from the SF of the United States

Why is the First Scout Ranger Regiment abbreviated as "FSSR"?
the correct abbreviation is FSRR

Commanders of the SF and SR are called "Regimental Commanders", and abbreviated as "RC", right?
yup

Why is the current head of the SF a Brigadier General, and the head of the Rangers is a Colonel? Is the latter due for promotion?
the current head of the FSSR is a west point graduate who was involved in the 1989 coup that's the main reason why he is still a colonel.. but i've heard he's due for promotion

What's the story with "Regimental" organizations? Are the SF and SR the only "regiments" in the AFP?
actually they were composite unit of the defunct SWABde (Special Warfare Bde) under the PA during the Marcos era, SRG( Scout Ranger Group) became the FSRR and the SFG (special forces group) became Home Defense Group before they became the SFR(A). FSRR has a strength of a Bde before it's downsizing , it has a official name as part of the PA Bde but it was dropped because the rangers don't want to be called katipuneros.( see the Army troopers for more info)

The PA armored units used to be under the Phil Army Light Armored Regiment (PALAR), now they are under the Light Armored Brigade. Does anyone here have the background story?
Phil Army Light Armored Regiment (PALAR) was deactivated and all PA armored units including the Aeroscout was reorganized into the LABde as part of the AFP modernization during the time of Ramos

Once the additinal utiltity choopers and the attack choppers arrive, what if we utiize our SF troops for spearheading the attack on rebel groups?

When an intel from Army recon units or airborne surveillance systems or units confirm enemy presence, the SF troops may be flown in and initiate the attack while the attack choppers will provide fire cover.

The SF are as good as the Scout Rangers. That is why loading them in the choppers for insertion instead of the regular infantry is reasonable. THESE GUYS ARE TRAINED FOR SMALL UNIT OPERATIONS WHILE THE REGULAR INFANTRY IS NOT. We only have a few number of choppers. The loaded troops' skills should be good enough to strike the hostile forces head on.

Soon, we may even create an Airmobile Division if this setup succeeds.

The Recon teams and the neardby regular infantry units may then act as reinforcements.

This is ideal in areas where the Scout Rangers are not in the vicinity.

With this the rebels will have a hard time escaping.


Army Air Assault Regiment
http://pdff.sytes.net/index.php?showtopic=2170&st=120

Get those choppers first. It's been long overdue.

..and these lawmakers keep on blaming the AFP why it cant stop this rebellion.

The real culprits here are the short-sighted and dumb lawmakers. Well, if in case they arent really Reds. Hey wait. Okay forget the Red thing. Just stick with the first standpoint.

Our economy could have grown much faster had the lawmakers supported the military modernization.

It's not too late though. These lawmakers can still make up for their disgusting performance.

This was what I have in mind in the discussions about those Cobras, Air Mobility for our troops (insertions, medevacs/dust-offs, blocking forces, CAS/gunships). More choppers to cover more area. A simultaneous attack on all identified rebel bases by MD520 and Hueys with SOG giving them no time to regroup. Those finished with their mission could augment other areas as their secondary missions. While with a limited number of attack helicopters, these will do it at a mission at a time which could be too late and the rebeles have moved out.

Maybe let the ARMY have their own air support mobility (Utility Choppers/gunships) and give the PAF the sophisticated attack helicopters would be best?

With the present disaster situation you could see how versatile these utility choppers are. They could shift troops to give assistance which a dedicated attack helicopter could not do.

The Scout Rangers is the most popular among the PA Special Operations Unit as they are distinguished by their black BDAs, yet another unit, the Special Forces Regiment (Airborne) is equally rich in tradition as the SRs, yet they are not as high-profile as their "musang" brothers. Here are some trivias about the Special Forces.

1. The Special Forces was founded by Fidel Ramos in the early 1960s, Fidel Ramos
is the father of the PA Special Forces.

2. Force Structure of the Special Forces is similar to the Scout Rangers, one
regimental headquarters, 4 batallions and several independent companies.

3. Like the Scout Rangers, the Special Forces in under the SOCOM, PA

4. The current commander, Col. Arturo Ortiz is a Medal of Valor awardee, he was
awarded the MOV as a captain in 1990 in Murcia, Negros Occidental, when as
CO of 606th SF detachment, he led an assault into an NPA cadre graduation
ceremony that resulted in 85 NPA KIA. Col. Ortiz nickname in the AFP is
"Valor"

5. MSGT Francisco Granfill is another SF Medal of Valor awardee, as his unit was
ambushed, he rallied his men, secure a 60mm mortar and repulsed the
enemy.

6. Notable personalities who served in the Special Forces are Fidel Ramos,
Lisandro Abadia and Angelo Reyes.

7. PA Airborne school is being operated by the Special Forces.

Please feel free to add your trivia or correct some of the information regarding the Special Forces.

email this guy veteran SF...... mikelogics@yahoo.com. unlike SR this guys is not mayabang.

You could check Sir mikelogic here also

ArmyRanger.com.

but maybe they the right to be mayabang, considering their accomplishments against the insurgency and islamic terrorists, that is, compared to other socom units.

but maybe they the right to be mayabang, considering their accomplishments against the insurgency and islamic terrorists, that is, compared to other socom units.

yeap best SOCOM unit best loyalty record<sarcasm po iyan> ano kamo mo 1989 coup?