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Engine : Mitsubishi 130hp Diesel Top speed : 100-120 kph Armor : Resistant to 7.62mm, and .50 caliber (depending on angle) Hull : Monocoque Power to weight ratio : 30:1 minimum (w/ full combat weight) Personnel : 4 (including driver & gunner) Main armament : 7.62mm (current version)
Future configurations will be water-resistant versions, double .5 caliber versions, armored troop carrier, TOW version. It all depends on the needs & budget of the military.
No word on the price yet. but i think its just a little expensive than a non-armored humvee.
Main duty will be as escort vehicle for our troops on 6x6.
Maintenance cost will only be like maintaining a delivery truck. This baby will save us a lot of money in the long run.
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Sgt Bilko,
Great info! Has the local manufacturer given a name for it yet? That money that the AFP spent for procuring a Turkish made ARV that cost P55mil (just for one piece) can more or less produce at least 10-12 of these! If any AFP personnel is reading this make sure it reaches the top brass. If this project as well as the Kalakian is given full government support then beating the rebels by 2010 is possible now.
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QUOTE (akimima @ Mar 16 2007, 08:22 AM)
Sgt Bilko,
Great info! Has the local manufacturer given a name for it yet? That money that the AFP spent for procuring a Turkish made ARV that cost P55mil (just for one piece) can more or less produce at least 10-12 of these! If any AFP personnel is reading this make sure it reaches the top brass. If this project as well as the Kalakian is given full government support then beating the rebels by 2010 is possible now.
But this vehicle can't perform the job of the Turkish ARV.
Experience in the MILF campaign of 2000 showed that the Army needed recovery vehicles. Let compare apples to apples . . . no to oranges.
Peace.
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sorry for the stupid question...
could the Turkish-made AIFV-based ARV service wheeled armored vehicles such as the V-150, V-300, Simba and this one that is being featured in this thread?
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Sir Adroth,
I know about your 2000 campaign in Mindanao and the need for the ARV's. I am not comparing the ARV's from this thread's vehicle topic. I know what an ARV is and what its capable of but what I am trying to reiterate here is that the P55 mil used to purchase 1 just 1 ARV is simply ridiculous! You can buy 1 or 2 of that from an Asian supplier say Singapore, Taiwan, etc to name a few ( same capabilities from that Turkish supplier) and still have some money left to buy or develop this new vehicle that Sgt Bilko is presenting. I am not comparing apples from oranges here, its the questionable and eye brow raising manner the AFP buys their gadgets and other hardwares that perplexes me.
Let us just get back to the topic....okay?
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sherman tank is not the best tank in world war II but it was used during the six day war by israel and won. one feature of the tank is that it is very adaptable. since we use our armor asset as a platform for fire support does the new vehicle have the adaptability of accomodating all sort of armaments? this armored vehicles can provide us the mobility and some protection however if we put some high caliber armament from guns to missile, I believe this will give the vehicle a big punching power. With the ubiquitous sparepart available, we can afford to operate mass number of this vehicle thereby giving our armed forces a truely mechanized army. For short does the manufacturer makes the vehicle versatile in terms of weapon carrying capacity?
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Please read 'The Philippine Star' front page, March 17, 2007.
Akimima is correct, you could buy 10 units of these for the cost of P55M. I believe it is named MX-8 prototype, but they haven't formally given it a name yet.
I think the purchase of the ARV is good for support, but the NBC system which makes it that expensive is not needed for our troops. Who will the ARV recover when it cannot go out of the vehicle to recover the vehicle incase of the NBC attack? (the turret isn't even NBC protected) we don't even have NBC protection for our troops and other vehicles. (please correct me if i am mistaken)
I think some of the simba can be adapted with hydraulic booms to make a low cost alternative for a ARV, since its load capacity can carry replacement engines & transmission on its troop bay, and it could easily pull a broken APC out of harms way. that's just my opinion though.
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