Philippine Army says needs more ordnance quickly

By Manny Mogato MANILA, Aug 29 (Reuters) - The Philippine military has asked the government to quickly replenish ammunition stockpiles as supplies were running low after nearly two weeks of fighting with Muslim rebels, according to documents seen by ...

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after only two weeks supplies are almost depleted, ammo stockpiles maybe only good for 1 month

Does anyone know how things were when Pres. Estrada waged an all-out war against these malcontents?

what i knew before was that this also happened during erap's term but when erap ordered the government and military to immediately supply and stockpile ammunition to be used against the war on the MILF within less than a week the military has a full stock of the said ammunition, that's why the military didn't stop blasting these rebels because they have continous supply of ammunitions... until the rebels where almost decimated at camp abubakar and other regions of their control...

yes, the issue of rapidly depleting ordnance did not come out at the height of the camp abubakar offensive.

there could be a problem if the other MILF commanders join the fray

This is one of what im talking about, Inventory management is not even military related.

what is there to manage if there's no inventory in the ammo dumps and armory?

the military has a weak management-style system, even in auditing halos kulang o wala silang capability...

how did you know about this? were you able to observe first-han how the AFP manages and audits its logistics?

yes...

interesting, I believe you are doing your best to improve its efficiency from where you sit.

a-a, just observing there management, had given such advices, but top brass just turned a blind eye over it...

Eng eng talaga sila,kainis
Sa reuters pa natin nalaman,nakakahiya naman. Ayusin sana ng AFP at government ang pagmanage sa mga pangunahing pangangailangan ng mga sundalo natin. Hindi talaga magandang balita yan.

This post has been edited by panzerkampfwagen on Sep 11 2008, 07:37 AM

http://newsbreak.com.ph/index.php?option=c...Itemid=88889051

Do you learn Management in PMA? or in actual Battles?

Its all about "corporate standards". The AFP or this government should be run like a professional corporation not like a livelihood project.

Yes, sitting in college chair where you learn business and management will help a lot and practicing it in real business sitting in the comfortable chair of the so called CEO office.

This is the reason why the PNP seems to be getting a step ahead, its because they value education, college graduates are required and schooling for officers.

If they failed to see this failed organization system then this is going no where, they cant win a war if you cant properly organize themselves, at least some officer have already noticed it. Read the article it is interesting, at least for me.

This post has been edited by paratorpe on Sep 11 2008, 09:08 AM

Do you learn Management in PMA? or in actual Battles?

Its all about "corporate standards". The AFP or this government should be run like a professional corporation not like a livelihood project.



Yes, sitting in college chair where you learn business and management will help a lot and practicing it in real business sitting in the comfortable chair of the so called CEO office.

This is the reason why the PNP seems to be getting a step ahead, its because they value education, college graduates are required and schooling for officers.

If they failed to see this failed organization system then this is going no where, they cant win a war if you cant properly organize themselves, at least some officer have already noticed it. Read the article it is interesting, at least for me.

I whole-heartedly agree with comrade paratorpe comments! this is true, the AFP really lacks in management...

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadl...ow-chief-of-PNP

Managerial training

As PNP chief, Verzosa intends to make the force more efficient by training all 1,600 chiefs of police, 80 provincial commanders and 17 regional commanders to become managers.

“That will be our main agenda, to implement our program of building leadership from the chiefs of police up. That is what we lack in critical crime-prone areas and in places with an insurgency problem,” he said.

According to Verzosa, leadership at the top will result in efficiency. And a more efficient and better led police force will be capable of bringing down the crime rate and improving its anticrime campaign.

“All commanders will be accountable and responsible for the anticrime campaigns in their areas,” he said.

Verzosa is convinced that training in management will allow commanders to link up with other stakeholders in the community to help in the prevention and solution of crimes in their areas.

The focus on management is the crux of the PNP’s Transformation Program, which Verzosa spearheaded during his term as deputy chief for administration, the PNP’s second highest post.

He also headed the Program Management Office.

This post has been edited by paratorpe on Sep 29 2008, 09:36 AM